Patience with Divisive a Man

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by John McGlone

I have been blessed over the last month to develop with a few saints of God the Heartland Openair Preaching and Evangelism Facebook Group, H.O.P.E.  Things have been going very well, making connections among the saints in our heartland region.  In just a few short weeks we have made some great event coordinations as well.  It’s been really good, peaceable, and simple.  We are up to about 50 members now, a few outside our region who are checking on what we are doing so they may initiate such a group for their regions.  Praise God, wouldn’t it be great to have different regional groups who help announce, coordinate, and work out strategies for the members?

That is the background for the story of a man I am compelled to introduce named Phillip Gage, from Holcomb, MO. who was invited to join our group.  From the very first welcome post on the thread, it seemed Phillip made his motives known to correct certain methods and standards for our group.  I decided to remove the thread from the board, as one of our tenets is not to bring doctrines to discussion but leave the board for coordination, recruiting, and brainstorming events.  He had also used some very vulgar language which I didn’t have time to deal with as I was heading out the door to preach at WKU all day.  I offered that he could discuss these things in PM for any members who were willing to do so.  I quickly set that up for him to discuss these things with the membership. The thread got quickly out of hand while I was gone with Phillip taking authority where he had none, accusing members of sin, etc.  I told the admins to ask Phillip if I could call him, then we would work it out.  He agreed and I called him after our hectic day on campus.  He seemed apologetic, humble, and yet passionate all at the same time.  I agreed he could stay on.  I returned home found the thread was much worse than I thought, and how many things that Phillip did causing so much discord and division in such a short amount of time.  You dear reader may be wondering what was he so bent out of shape about?  He heard other preachers using terms like; faggot, whore, etc and he was grieved in his spirit.  I explained my/our view on what may seem like harsh corrupt language comes from a corrupt heart, not from what the culture or even what an individual deems is corrupt.   We believe a curse word involves cursing in the heart toward the one whom it is directed.  For example, a sinner may say, “F… you preacher go to hell.”  We would reply, “God bless you sinner I don’t want you to go to hell!”  The same ‘curse’ word hell is involved but where is the cursing in the latter example?  Who has the impure or pure heart in these matters?  Thus when the open air minister is calling the world to repent of all the filthy, wicked things they promote and love, he must be careful not to have reviling in his heart toward the hearers.  These things we witness and see on the streets of  NeoSodom are vulgar and a shame to even speak but we are called to expose them.

Eph 4:29-32 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: 32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.

Eph 5:11-13 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. 12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. 13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

We can easily see there that we should not approve of, or have fellowship with sin.  Even speaking of these wicked things sinners do is shameful.  But, despite the fact that it is a shame, we have to reprove and expose these things  which would mean we must speak of them…from a pure heart not defiled with reviling, hatred, and rioting on our parts.  That is our position for the group.

 

 

 

 

I spoke with Phillip again for about an hour the next day and it became very quickly apparent, he had come to teach our group his arbitrary standard of what speech and methods of open air preaching he approves.  At times he would be very patient, then outbursts of passion and anger about how grieved he was about our behavior.  He made threats to come and preach against us at the Memphis Pride we had planned.  I pointed out to him that if we were in sin, who was it and where was his evidence against them?  After a pregnant pause, he offered Marvin Heiman.  I immediately cautioned him about accusing brethren and asked for his proof to which he did not offer any.  We spoke some more, then I hung up the phone very exhausted from maintaining my composure with a very belligerent phone call.

Over the course of the day the admins of the group came to the conclusion he wasn’t going to be a good fit.  We decided that Marvin and I would speak to him the next day by phone, I would be the second witness in regards to Phillip’s accusation against Marvin’s sin, whatever that was. We also decided because it seemed that Phillip was so passionate and accusatory that we would make a recording of it.

The next day we called Phillip and he was agreeable to the recording and discussion parameters of timed sequences with me moderating our time together.   I mention that we didn’t desire to publish this audio.  However, I have changed my view on this in light of all the trouble he has caused among our members and now other open air groups making false accusations and bringing discord. Here is that talk:

Discussion with Marvin Heiman, Phillip Gage, and John McGlone

 

We have removed Phillip from our group based on his unwillingness to admit he is wrong about his accusations against Marvin and now the saints of God.  At time 11:00 you hear his ideas that we should ostracize brethren, and separate ourselves. The Bible teaches us to seek reconciliation and peace among those of the household of faith, this was our motive and hope with him.

At time 19:01 Phillip asserts that the people that are hearing the words, determine whether or a word is a curse word or not.

The following godly brethren all part of our group had discussions on some level, either on private message or openly;  Marvin Heiman, Quentin Deckard, A.T. Love, Joshua Stanley Lovell, and Tim Brown.  I will include their testimonies as I receive them.  There were many others on the Street Preacher Movement Group, Jim Gilles, et all, who briefly encountered him.  This was before he realized that his testimony against me would not just be accepted without some testing by the saints.  He began blocking people, including myself.

Pro 6:16-19 These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: 17 A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, 19 A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren.

Tit 3:9-11 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; 11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

Heretick  Strong’s G141 αἱρετικός aihretikos hahee-ret-ee-kos’
– a schismatic. This word only occurs once in the KJV translation

I publish this blog post to make it apparent to all the saints how we have tried to work with Phillip, but he would not put down his unbiblical views on words and methods in the open air.  I also do this to warn and make aware to everyone in the open air holiness community of this divider of the brethren that they may call him to repentance.   Thank you.  May God bless you as you seek to glorify the Son!

One of the last correspondences Phillip gave to me was this pm, which he assumes many things based on a slanderous website against many open air preachers:

Phillip Gage

You’re living in adultery- remarried after divorce before your wife was dead. Without a doubt you have a gay daughter.

Who are you to lead men of God in organized activities and call yourself a preacher? You are disqualified from your post by your own admissions. Please refrain from speaking to me ever again. I WILL BE TO SEE YOU IN MEMPHIS. God has put me on you like a bloodhound buddy. You will be forced underground for what youve done

8:19am

John McGlone

More wicked accusations. You still up for the debate then?

8:19am

Phillip Gage

Shoooooot yeah.

Memphis it is

Its the truth, freak.

Actually …..NO. Im not even allowed to eat with you

But will be preaching against you and the other heathens like you

8:20am

John McGlone

I am not asking for a meal at this point but a public debate of your wicked accusations.

8:20am

Phillip Gage

This isnt a joke man. Youve drawn Gods attention for some reason

Your done, McGlone

God will not be mocked

8:21am

John McGlone

I’m not joking with you accuser.

8:22am

Phillip Gage

 

8:22am

Phillip Gage

Your an adulterer

Repent sinner

You have railed against me for the last time

8:23am

John McGlone

stop railing hypocrite.

8:23am

Phillip Gage

How am i a hypocrite????

Show me my sins!!??

Im showing you, yours!!!!

How can you call yourself a man….with sin on your breath

Your a sinner!!!!

SINNER!!!!!

Sinner!!!!!

Adulterer?!!!???!!

Are you KIDDING ME???

8:25am

John McGlone

The evidence is before your eyes but you are blind to it.

8:25am

Phillip Gage

Your an adulterer!!!!!

You remarrried before your wife passed

This is the truth man!!!!

8:26am

John McGlone

Again man of no control, I am not railing against you. But you hypocrite rail against me/us. You’ve tried to dig up dirt on me to accuse me again.

8:26am

Phillip Gage

I cant help what just popped into my lap

8:26am

John McGlone

And…prove to me from the Bible. I was divorced for adultery, accuser.

8:26am

Phillip Gage

Doesnt make it any less true

Did she cheat on you?

8:26am

John McGlone

again more standards according to Phillip.

8:27am

Phillip Gage

Were you the adulterer

Or was she

8:27am

John McGlone

Do you think at this point I would trust you with anything hypocrite?

8:27am

Phillip Gage

Whose fault

Yours or hers

8:27am

John McGlone

Why are you asking this question now accuser?

8:27am

Phillip Gage

It matters

It matters

8:27am

John McGlone

to who, you or God?

8:27am

Phillip Gage

To me

8:28am

John McGlone

too bad.

8:28am

Phillip Gage

You were found guilty……

Multiple counts

8:28am

John McGlone

were is your evidence accuser?

8:28am

Phillip Gage

See you in memphis hypocrite

8:29am

John McGlone

We’ll see what the Lord allows accuser.

8:29am

Phillip Gage

Oh trust me…

He will

Your exposed as a fraud

Not only do your current actions over the last couple of days prove that you’re a lukewarm freak, but I keep getting stuff piled on my desk that proves that you are who I think you are. God will not be mocked

By 09:20 Phillip had blocked Jim Gilles off of the Street Preachers group for asking public questions, about his public accusations, then me, then Marvin and God knows who else.  Beware of Phillip Gage.

 

 

Homosexual Agenda of Annihilation

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Many Christians think they can bring their faith into their business to the point of refusing to serve certain groups of people they disagree with morally.  There have been a flurry of lawsuits against; bakers, photographers, bed ‘n breakfasts, wedding consultants by homosexuals pleading their case they are being discriminated against.    In a sense, I agree with the homosexuals that they are being discriminated against.  But, many questions are  begged by these scenarios:  1.  “Do we have to actually participate in ceremonies, or rituals that violate our conscience as Christians?  2.  “Do Christians that serve the public in general with a money making business, expect all the public to be holy as they are holy?”  If not, why do they only choose to not serve the homosexual couple who is getting married?  3.  What about the heterosexual couple who has been fornicating and decides it’s time to marry because they are pregnant?  Do the bakery owners say, wait a minute, I can’t in good conscience serve you because you are pregnant out of wedlock, we don’t serve fornicators.   4.  Are the business owners that agree with the homosexual lifestyle or actually homosexuals just as willing to serve customers who are not in agreement?  5. When did judging or discriminating against immoral practices become a crime in America?  6.  Are there any limits to discrimination against discrimination? 7.  Who has the moral high ground to make determinations what is right or wrong?

In this article, I would like to look at some differing perspectives and ask ourselves would we actually expect them morally or logically to ‘serve’ the customer.

The first example I’d like to give is a Gentile who desires to have smoked pulled pork served at his wedding gathering of 500 family and friends. He goes to the local Jewish Kosher meat market and attempts to place his order.  The owner of the business looks at him in horror and exclaims, “Sir, we are a kosher market.  Our religion forbids us to even touch swine, much less cook it and serve it to you.”  The enraged customer curses the shop owner, finds a lawyer, and begins the effort to bring that business to it’s financial ruin because of it’s refusal to serve swine at his very important event.  The Jewish religion for thousands of years has taught against the handling of pork, bat, ostrich, and other forms of meat which they will not even touch.  How can they be forced to process something that so intrinsically goes against their faith?

The next scenario is a professing Christian woman who goes into an Islamic burka market.  She would like a nice pink polka dotted bikini for her trip to Panama City Beach for spring break.  When she gets into the store she notices that there are very few colors of anything and there are just no bikinis stocked anywhere.   All she sees are rows and rows of very neatly ironed  burkas in three differing colors.  She seeks help from the woman at the counter as to why the store doesn’t stock two piece bikinis.  The burka clad woman isn’t able to express her facial expression of disgust to the bikini seeker.  Her religion requires her to cover even her face as an expression of her modesty toward Allah, all the adherents of her religion, and an example even to the infidel.  The lady at the counter begins to explain, “We don’t sell bikinis here as we believe them to be immodest and not what god(allah) wants us to do.  “Really!!!  You have got to be kidding me!”, retorts the infuriated woman.  She is red faced, embarrassed, and in her heart is desiring to seek vengeance against the shop owner.  As the professor of Christ runs out of the store she begins to formulate her strategy.  “I will get a good ‘Christian’ lawyer.  We will sue the burkas off the business owners who are so judgmental and discriminatory against me!” In a country that professes to have freedom of religion, why is the Muslim woman possibly forced to stock and sell something to a customer who they are not even in the market for.

http://christiannews.net/2015/04/05/commission-rules-in-favor-of-baker-who-refused-to-decorate-bibles-cakes-against-homosexuality/

In another setting, we have an American patriot who owns a gun store where he legally trades in guns and ammunition even carrying assault rifles which can be modified to make them fully automatic which is perfectly legal under the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.  He has grown up in his community all of his life and is an upstanding lawful citizen of that community.  Recently a group of anarchists have moved into the county doing weapons training openly and recruiting people to their cause. They approach him to sell them weapons which he understands would lead them to greater fire power.  This according to their own literature will lead to the eventual overthrow of the government.  Of course, he refuses to sell them the weapons and he is quickly served a subpoena to appear in civil court on charges of judging and discriminating against the group being a hateful gun shop owner who will not distribute weapons to a professed group of anti government rebels.  The judge carefully considers the matter and rules in the anarchist’s favor ignoring all the warnings of the preponderance of the evidence in support of the gun shop owner.

Lastly, in the not too distant future there was a strong Christian family of nine who loved the Lord Jesus Christ and sought to serve Him in every way.  The lived their lives in peace with all men as much as possible with them.   They paid their taxes and obeyed all the laws of the land.  They home schooled their families primarily because the Holy Bible teaches that the parents are responsible to train up the children in the way they should go.  They also understood the propensity in the public school environment of all the violence, poor instructional standards, bullying, drugs, and teen sexual pressures from which they were interested in protecting their children.  In the course of time, a known pedophile moves into the area.  He approaches the family to provide tutelage and child care services to the couple.  The mother and father are immediately alarmed by the known history of the sexual predator and politely refuse his ‘service’ citing his criminal history.  He is quickly offended saying he has been reformed by the penal system which he was just released from.  “Why won’t you give me a chance with your children!”, he screams running out of their home.  He threatens to sue the family for personal damages discriminating and judging him which is causing him harm, preventing current and future employment.

Are businesses that serve the general public required to give services to anyone no matter what their behaviors or lifestyles?  What would you do in these scenarios?  These are moral dilemma’s for the business owners and parents that they should not be forced to submit their businesses or families to choose between. The problem of course is the root of it all which is sin.  The homosexuals as a group decry intolerance and yet are very intolerant of true Christian worldviews which expose their sexual immorality as sin.  Thus, they intolerantly pursue legal claims in order to force the owners of the businesses to do their will when they very well could go to dozens or scores of other businesses which even desire to serve that group of clientele.  We as Christians must let the world know regularly that the God of the Bible condemns all sins including this most flagrant one of homosexuality.

I want to for a moment be an advocate for the homosexual views in this matter.  If you desire to make a standard of not serving people because they are in homosexuality, then you must recognize that most everyone coming into your shop is in some kind of sin.  To be consistent we would have to refuse service to most people.  First question when a customer enters the door, “Good morning, are you in any kind of sin?  We don’t serve sinners here.”   In fact, most ‘Christians’ I speak with will say illogical things like, “We are all sinners, we sin everyday.”   If that is the case then we couldn’t serve most ‘believers’ in America today.  If we want to be consistent with the ‘Serve No Sinner’ business policy we must turn away most of our customers.    I think many well meaning Christian business owners make this poorly judged mistake of discriminating against one particular group of homosexual sinners because we know it is a very serious sin.

I would like to offer what is a consistent Christians strategy to help these business owners and all true Christians who are obviously being targeted by the homosexual agenda.  My suggestions are to serve the homosexuals in regards to cakes, photography, bed & breakfast, wedding planning, etc.  But, at every opportunity share your faith with them, call them to repentance of their wickedness including homosexuality, faith in Christ, and be born again of the Holy Spirit.  Leave Gospel tracts everywhere you go when you are serving them. Here are some of my favorites.  Good Gospel Tracts    Ensure that every opportunity is given as a chance to glorify Jesus.

Instead of saying,” I am sorry I can’t serve you because you are homosexual.”   Say, “I am willing to serve you but to be fair to you I am a very out of the closet Christian, who shares my faith calling people to repent from sin and trust Jesus.  Do you know that homosexuals as well as all other sinners will end up in a lake of fire and torment as Jesus Christ taught?  Do you know that God is an equal opportunity condemner and an equal opportunity forgiver?”  Make sure you record any and all interactions at least with audio that no false accusations may be made against you.  If you actually make it to the ‘gay-la’ event it would be a great opportunity to open air preach to the whole lot of the homosexual supporters to include the happy couple.  I know this sounds pretty radical, but to be salt and light in this wicked generation it will take some seriously radical saints of the Most High God.   I doubt that your services would be desired even after the first communication/correspondence.  But, even if you had to go all the way through the process, you are blameless as you have done it to glorify Jesus.  I know that if Christians would just stand up for the truth of Jesus Christ and actually speak those truths, the Lord will protect and bless you.  However, even if your bold faith costs you everything in this life to include your business, your customers, your friends, your family, and dare I say it, even your life, isn’t He worthy of it?   The world and the devils want you to compromise your faith even to the point that you even deny Jesus Christ, Himself.  Who will you serve, God or money?  Would you sacrifice your business, your customers, your friends, your family, and even your life on the altar of the Father’s business?  Will you seek and save that which is lost by telling them to turn from their sin and surrender to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior?

Christian man denied service by a series of pro homosexual bakeries who will not bake a pro traditional marriage cake.  CAUTION: Explicit language due to hard condition of the sinner’s hearts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJaroR_qTNs

Christian Florist Fined

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