OSAS, Eternal Security or Perpetual Insecurity?

THE ROOT OF OSAS

I have learned over my twenty years of walking with the Lord that the doctrine of
Once Saved Always Saved, also known as OSAS is perhaps one of the spiritually deadliest teaching  of devils in Christendom.

When I have ministered on the streets to the drunkards, drug addicts, lazy, lying, stealing, pimping, murdering sinners many of them have grown up in ‘churches’ which have taught them this onerous teaching of Once Saved, Always Saved.  These sinners will say things like: a.  I accepted Jesus when I was ten and I can’t do anything to lose my salvation.  b.  You’re a legalist because God doesn’t require us to do anything.  c.  I know God saved me, stop judging.  When asked if Jesus came to set the captives free from sin, without exception they will then plead to, “Everyone sins, even you!”  When asked if sin is a choice, they will proclaim, “We’re born this way, God knows that and forgives us anyway.”  They make all manner of excuses trying to justify themselves.  However, they can not answer this passage with any cogent response.

2 Pet 2:20-22
For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,  and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.

When a OSAS believer is challenged to consider other former believers they may have known in their lives. They will respond, “They were never saved in the first place.”  I will ask them how that makes any sense even though they personally knew the person experienced forgiveness, experienced a new birth, and experienced good fruits meet for repentance.  They will continue to insist they were never ‘saved’ in the first place.  We knew of a good Holy Spirit filled open air preacher in Richmond, VA around 2006 who began to doubt his faith.  Instead of exhorting him to return to the faith, his Calvinist buddies began to tell him, You must have had a false conversion.  He eventually became a very aggressive atheist for the devils work.  He even has a YT webpage promoting his anti Christ thinking.  Why have we shot our spiritual foot off with false doctrines?  What a shame that any believer would cause a man to stumble from faith and into the pit of eternal darkness!    I wonder what these verses mean in this situation I have described?

James 5:19-20
Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.

Now, I don’t think we are ‘saved’ the way the OSAS believer thinks.  I believe the Bible teaches us to seek a new birth.   John 3:3-5  We must humble ourselves with broken hearts about our sin and what the Father and Son had to do to accomplish reconciliation with rebellious mankind and not compromise His Holiness. Ps 34:18 , 2 Cor 7:10  Our new life begins when we completely and unconditionally surrender to our Great God and King Jesus Christ. We are pardoned criminals that are here on earth in a period of probation.  However, if we continue to seek sin, the world, and the devil’s work we will:  1. Grieve the Holy Spirit away  2.  Increasingly harden our hearts as we continue to seek darkness instead of holiness  3.  Many even test God so far that He will decide to reprobate us and turn us over to our vile desires that we could never be saved even though we have not physically died yet.

Here are some great videos on the probation of the believer:

Imagine a criminal going to a court before a good judge and being found guilty of assault against a defenseless 93 year old lady.  The criminal puts forth a heartfelt apology to her and through tears begs the judge to give him mercy though he deserves none.  The judge decides to offer that mercy and puts him on probation for five years with the condition of the original charges being added back to any future crimes.  Well, sure enough the forgiven criminal did not take the judge seriously and within a few months was dragged back into court in chains before the same good judge.  This time he had mugged an 86 year old man, broken his jaw, and put him into the ICU at the local hospital clinging to life.  Do you think the judge was pleased to hear of the criminal’s activity?  He was more furious than before that his mercy had been offered and the fool had trampled all over the former ruling.  Well, all the former charges and judgments were now brought forth and adjudicated with the new charges. Plus an even stricter ruling was given than the first because the judge was tried by the criminal and found to be good to his word.  Do you think God is good to what He has promised and threatened toward His sinning creatures?  Do you think that God magically forgets what has gone on before you were forgiven the first time?  No dear reader, God has not forgotten.  He had remitted the past sin when you were born again and now you need to walk as an obedient servant instead of a rebellious criminal.  Rom 3:25-27

I will often hear those holding to OSAS promote this analogy of what father rejects their children for mistakes they make.These folks make some serious category errors:  1. Our  earthly fathers are nothing like our heavenly Father.  Heb 12:9   2.We are not sons of God but children of the devil if we sin.  1 John 3:8-9    3. We are breaking our relationship with our heavenly Father.  4. Sin is not a mistake but a criminal activity  1 John 3:4

In conclusion, we should connect some dots so to speak from the preceding paragraphs.  Firstly, ‘believers’ should never resist correction offered from God’s Word if we are found in contradiction to it.  Secondly, The OSAS fruit of, “Never genuinely saved”  causes doubts for both the former believers and current believers.   Couldn’t people be grafted in again as God’s Word says in Rom 11:19-24?  Couldn’t they return to the Lord as He admonishes in the Holy Scripture?

1 Pet 2:24-25
who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed. 25 For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.

This deadly spiritual mistake is to presume that someone was not born again if they fell away from the faith.  This would cause what I have coined the ‘Perpetual Insecurity’ of the believer.  If you think carefully about it that is exactly what the OSAS doctrine does in a person’s heart.  The former believer can not imagine returning if all of that former experience was not real.  Because they have been taught they had a false conversion this only cements their spiritual condition against God.  The current believer wonders if they are truly saved because they have internalized this false doctrine, secretly wondering if they are actually in the faith themselves.  To compound the problem they must come up with more doctrines like sinful saint, imputed righteousness, etc. to assist understanding of the root of the false doctrine which is OSAS.  For a good teaching on this CLICK HERE. These doctrines only try to hold together the fur ball that is being theologically choked upon.  Why not just confess your sin IF you sin and be forgiven?  Why not just seek the Lord, resist the temptations and devils and obey God in the first place?  1 Cor 10:13  Wouldn’t that be the faithful thing to do?  Should we be found faithful or faithless before His Holy Throne?

Thirdly, our Great God and King is an impartial judge.  He will not overlook your sin because you have washed it away with theological gymnastics.  He commands all to be born again of the Holy Spirit, all to walk according to His Holy Spirit, all to abide in Him and produce good fruit, all to endure to the end.  These commands make no sense in light of the ideology of Once Saved, Always Saved.  Why walk, abide or endure to the end as He both commands and desires?  Has God no power in your life to change the way you act, think, talk and walk?

Saints of God, let us be  very careful how we deal with each other in this most Holy faith in which we partake.  Glory to Jesus!

Heb 12:12-17
Therefore strengthen the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees, 13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed.14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord: 15 looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled; 16 lest there be any fornicator or profane person like Esau, who for one morsel of food sold his birthright. 17 For you know that afterward, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, for he found no place for repentance, though he sought it diligently with tears.

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Here is a spiritual tsunami which testifies against OSAS.  Please read these verses carefully in context, thank you!

1 Samuel 10:6, 9-10; 1 Samuel 11:6; 1 Samuel 13:13-14; 1 Samuel 15:10-11, 23; 1 Samuel 31:4; 2 Chronicles 15:2; Proverbs 2:13; Isaiah 1:4; Ezekiel 3:20-21; Ezekiel 18:18-31; Ezekiel 33:12-20; Matthew 6:14-15; Matthew 10 (Judas):20; Matthew 18:32-35; Matthew 24:13; Matthew 24:48-51; Matthew 25:1-13; Matthew 25:24-30; Mark 4:16-19; Mark 13:13; Luke 13:23-27; John 6:66; John 8:31; John 15:1-6; John 17:12; Acts 1:24-25; Acts 11:23; Acts 13:43; Acts 14:22; Romans 11:15-24; 1 Corinthians 3:16-17; 1 Corinthians 9:27; 1 Corinthians 10:5-13; 1 Corinthians 15:1-2; Galatians 5:4-9; Galatians 6:7-9; Philippians 1:9,10; Philippians 2:12-13; Philippians 4:1; Colossians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 3:5,8; 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8; 2 Thessalonians 2:3; 1 Timothy 1:5,6; 1 Timothy 1:18-20; 1 Timothy 4:1; 1 Timothy 4:16; 1 Timothy 5:11-12, 15; Timothy 1: 14-15; 2 Timothy 2:3-5, 12, 17-18; 2 Timothy 4:9-10; Hebrews 2:1, 3; Hebrews 3:6, 8-15, 18-19; Hebrews 4:1, 11, 14; Hebrews 6:1, 8, 11-12, 15; Hebrews 10:23, 26-31, 35-39; Hebrews 12:14-15, 25; James 1:13-15; James 5:19-20; 2 Peter 1:9; 2 Peter 2:20-22; 2 Peter 3:17; 1 John 3:15, Jude 20-21; Revelation 2:4-7, 10-11, 17, 25-26; Revelation 3:2-5, 10-12, 16, 19, 21; Revelation 16:15;

Judgment on Individuals
John 3:18 — unbelievers are already condemned
Acts 5:1-11 — judgment on Ananias and Sapphira…
Acts 12:23 — God’s angel smites Herod with a disease for not giving God the glory
Acts 13:10-12 — Paul strikes Elymas Bar Jesus blind for resisting the Gospel
1 Corinthians 11:27-32 — judgment on those who drink the Lord’s table unworthily
2 Thessalonians 1:5-6 — God’s “righteous judgment” on those who persecute believers
Hebrews 10:27-29 — judgment, and fiery indignation of God promised against willful sin

God’s Wrath being shown in this age
Luke 21:23 — God’s wrath to be poured out on Jerusalem in 70 AD
John 3:36 — the wrath of God is presently upon unbelievers
Romans 1:20 — the wrath of God is presently being revealed against ungodliness
Romans 13:4 — governments are God’s minister to execute wrath on evildooers
Ephesians 5:6 — God’s wrath executed upon the disobedient
Colossians 3:6 — God’s wrath executed on the disobedient
1 Thessalonians 2:16 — God’s wrath has come upon those who hinder the Gospel

The Gentleness and Severity of the Christian Witness

The question has often been asked about our methods of biblical evangelism when we rebuke and reprove hard sinners is, “Shouldn’t we be gentle in our dealings with the lost?  The question begged then becomes, “How can we be gentle and rebuke as the Scriptures obviously require us to do?”  The truth is knowable if we seek it. Someone is wrong in this moral dilemma of gentleness and hardness of communication with the sinner.

2 Tim 4:2-5
Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

2 Tim 2:24-26
And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.

This question arises within the same letter from Paul to Timothy.

Here is the answer in simplest terms.  In regards to rebuking and gentleness of our Christian witness, it is a both/and not an either or depending on the condition of the soil of the heart of the listener/s.

James 4:5-7
5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who dwells in us yearns jealously”? 6 But He gives more grace. Therefore He says:
“God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble.” 7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you.

Prov 3:33-35
The curse of the Lord is on the house of the wicked,
But He blesses the home of the just.
Surely He scorns the scornful,
But gives grace to the humble.
35 The wise shall inherit glory,
But shame shall be the legacy of fools

1 Pet 5:4-6
4 and when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away. Likewise you younger people, submit yourselves to your elders. Yes, all of you be submissive to one another, and be clothed with humility, for “God resists the proud,  But gives grace to the humble.” Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time,

So, the Holy Spirit who dwells in us gives the law/rebukes/warnings of hell/etc to the proud sinners, but His grace is given to those who humble themselves during or after our witness of Christ to them. If you read the writeup for my Grandmother’s funeral preach video you would find out a lot of information about how long I have been witnessing to this group of people called my earthly family. One2one, small groups, tracts, emails, etc I have been witnessing to my family over sixteen years, My first witness to them was Aug 3, 1996 when I was born again I called everyone in my family and asked them if they knew of or had been saved by Jesus Christ.

Now I want to parallel my experiences of my witness to my family to the witnesses we give to strangers to see if there is any correlation between the two.  In trying to reach my family most of them were haughty and resistant from the beginning of my testimonies to them.    Only my ‘saved’ sister and my maternal grandmother were interested at all in the things I desired to say of Jesus and His great salvation offered to the world.  So, over the years as I learned that when speaking of the love of Jesus demonstrated at the cross for them, they neglected and even mocked it. To this, I would tell them they were headed to hell.  This of course, is very offensive to the carnal person still living in sin.  I learned about ten years ago that I needed to show them the law which is written upon the conscience and that it would bear witness as I did.  Well, glory hallelujah this did make some inroads with some of my family but most still hardened their hearts.  But, the law is not all we need to use as our witness.  We need to use:  1.  Creation which points to a Creator  2.  The Judgments of God which points out the horrors of dying in a sinful state.  3.  Sin which everyone is guilty of to point to the need for forgiveness.  4.  His Righteousness which means He won’t neglect what He has threatened and or promised against and for all of humanity.  5.  His love which was demonstrated on the cross in suffering and dying for all sinners and sin.  6.  His Word which is an eternal testimony of Himself to a lost and dying world.  7.  His Spirit which indwells every believer as we walk according to His directions in our communications with the lost.

If you think about it, our earthly family are just family members that are closer than the rest of our family which is the human race.  Why do we make special provision, excuses, or justifications for those that we know better or have more worldly experiences with, than the rest of our family?  I prove that point with one Scripture which I love to cite especially when people are racist in their thinking.

Acts 17:26-31
And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, 27 so that they should seek the Lord, in the hope that they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising. 30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”

In summary, we should not treat our close family members differently than the rest of our human family in our testimony of Jesus.  We should be consistent across the board not being preferential in the way we witness to them.  If we are, we need to repent of this arbitrary thinking and behavior.  One danger we have is to lose sight of the fact that Jesus will condemn them no matter what we say or do, if they do not repent, seek forgiveness, and become born again of the Holy Spirit.  Let us comfort no sinner in sin, whether they be a stranger on the street, or the closest brother, cousin, mother or father we have many fond carnal memories with….

1 Pet 1:13-19
Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 14 as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance; 15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, 16 because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.17 And if you call on the Father, who without partiality judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves throughout the time of your stay here in fear; 18 knowing that you were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. 

 

We should consider both God’s goodness and severity as well!

Rom 11:22-23
Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

Friends, let us make sure we represent Him properly to a lost world which is in rebellion to Him and His Holy authority.  I had a friend of mine recently say,

A sinner asked, “Why should we fear God?” I said, “Because He is HORRIFYINGLY HOLY! He burns people! Alive! Forever!” ”

 

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Destroying Doctrines of Devils: Sacred Name Movement (SNM) Refuted

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YHWH Only Defined and Refuted originally researched in January, 2010

Our family has been interacting and dealing with a large family of YHWH only believers whom have become our dear friends yet are trying to proselytize our children by their children to this false system of belief.  I felt compelled to go back to my research on this issue and develop a teaching on their beliefs, exposing the errors and giving our children some tools to deal with them properly.

There are many ‘sacred names’ sects of professing ‘Christianity’.  Some of them are; Jesus Only, YHWH Only, Yeshua Only, Yehoshua Only, and (Y)Jehovah Only.  I am sure there is probably more but those are the main groups I am aware of.

The Sacred Name Movement (SNM) is a movement in Christianity that seeks to conform Christianity to its Hebrew Roots in practice, belief and worship. The best known distinction of the SNM is its belief in the use of a singular proper name for the God of Israel (YHVH/Yahweh) based upon the Tetragrammaton and the use of the Hebrew name they believe is the true Hebrew name of Jesus (Yahshua).  Our friends believe the Messiah’s Name is YHWH pronounced, Yahwah.

Mainstream Christians and Hebrew scholars agree that Jesus’ real name was actually Yeshua. SNM believers also generally keep many of the Old Testament laws and ceremonies such as the Torah festivals and keeping kosher food laws. However, not every ‘Sacred Name’ Group adheres to Old Testament festivals, dietary laws and other commands in totality.

C.O. Dodd is one of the founders of this movement in the late 1920’s breaking off of the SDA church.  He began publishing The Faith magazine starting in 1937 to promote his views.  The Movement started with the formation of the Assembly of Yahweh in Holt, Michigan, USA in the early 1930s. The leaders of this group claim that a founding member was visited by two angels who explained that The Messiah’s Name is properly Yahshua.   Of course there have been a number of splits resulting in differences in doctrine and practice.

A.B. Traina was another major proponent of SNM who worked with Dodd and published many booklets and wrote articles for The Faith magazine.  He was prolific in writing the misinformation that Iesous or Jesus in the Greek translates as Hail Zeus.  In looking at his writings he even used Ante Nicean writings distorted to support his claims about the SNM.

The term “sacred name” is not exclusive to this movement but is a general theological term in Christianity – a translation of the Latin nomen sacrum – which Jerry our friends teacher ironically called nomina sacra, this is the plural form of the singular aforementioned.  This is ironic because Jerry’s view is a singular name but uses the plural form of this concept as part of his ‘doctrine’.

Some definitions to help clarify the issue.

Vowel points – It is widely recognized by Bible scholars that vowel points were not used in the ancient Hebrew.  That leaves the consonants of YHWH alone which then makes the personal Name of God unspeakable in any tongue.  This was the tradition of the Hebrews who revered God’s Name so much they chose not to speak it thinking they may be using it in a blasphemous way. Where did vowel points come from then?  The Jews themselves applied vowel points to make words like Adonai, etc.  Translators through the centuries have applied a myriad of principles to numerous and complicated to describe here to apply different vowel points which have lead to different renderings of Names of God in the Bible.  .

The ‘name’ – Gr. word onomo translated into English means ‘name’:  universally of proper names the name is used for everything which the name covers, everything the thought or feeling of which is aroused in the mind by mentioning, hearing, remembering, the name, i.e. for one’s rank, authority, interests, pleasure, command, excellences, deeds etc. persons reckoned up by name the cause or reason named.

Sacred name believers hold that verses like Matt 28:19, require you to hold to a singular, sacred name, ie YHWH, Jehovah, Yehoshua to be a true believer.

For example:

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the [YHWH] Father and of the [YHWH] Son and of the [YHWH] Holy Spirit,

Bracketed [YHWH] are obvious insertions and are for illustration only.  If you were previously baptized the way Jesus instructed in this verse then according to their view you must be baptized again with the sacred name to be truly saved.

Another verse they like to use a lot Acts 4:12.  Unfortunately, they ignore vs 13 which gives the context of this verse.

Acts 4:12  Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

So by their teachings they will insert, YHWH, Jehovah, etc ONLY concept into the text thus nullifying what God has communicated.

The conclusion of the matter rests with the proper definition of the word, onomo.  We can easily see that it also means, ‘authority’ and in that context it would make sense for Jesus to instruct us to be baptized in the authority of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.  We would not need a personal pronoun here considering the other definitions of the word, ‘name’.  Likewise, it would also make sense that there is no other authority by which we could be saved other than God himself.  More on this name issue later in the teaching.

 

 Faith or Doubt?

In the instance of the YHWH only believers we have dealt with, we find they have little understanding of hermeneutics or even the proper definitions of words from the Bible.  They are not putting faith in God’s Word, but calling it corrupted causing doubt and distrust.  When I first began to interact with these friends about this issue they pointed out the history of Constantine corrupting the church and the Bible.  I do agree with them to a point on this issue about the visible church.  But, scripture can be shown to be reliable over and again when compared to earlier manuscript copies.  Also, much of the corruption the emperor brought in led to the establishment of the Roman Catholic church and authorities to rule over the people vice serving the people as our Master has commanded.  They tell us that the New Testament is corrupt wherever it speaks of Jesus, Lord, or God.  They contend the name YHWH should be there instead.  They will not agree that the Living God of the Bible could deliver His Word intact to today that we may understand what we should believe.

Some concepts we must trust by faith and prove with evidence:

a.        God has delivered His Word intact and understandable in most every language in the world.

b.        The Holy Spirit teaches us all things.

c.         The visible church is on a wide road to hell.  This corruption and hypocrisy leads many people away from the truth of the Bible.

d.        The Name of the Messiah is delivered into many hundreds of languages and God is able to communicate who that Person was and is.

Lastly, we should not trust the teachings of men that cause us to doubt or negate God’s Word.   We should rightly divide the Word of God that we may be led by the Holy Spirit into all truth.

2 Tim 2:15

Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth

Some points to counter the YHWH only insertion wherever it appears in the Bible.

A.      The Pharisee’s who accused Jesus would have never used the personal pronoun of YHWH while he was being plotted against or interrogated prior to his crucifixion.                                                                                                                                                    Matt 26:3-5   Then the chief priests, the scribes, and the elders of the people assembled at the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas, and plotted to take Jesus by trickery and kill Him. But they said, “Not during the feast, lest there be an uproar among the people.

Matt 26:62-63  And the high priest arose and said to Him, “Do You answer nothing? What is it these men testify against You?”  But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest answered and said to Him, “I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God!”

B.  The three major languages of Jesus’ time was Aramaic, Latin, and Greek        .  It was not ancient Hebrew as they have supposed.  Probably most people read the Septuagint as scripture vs. ancient Hebrew.  This would make Jesus’ scriptural references accurate vs. the slight differences we see in the ancient Hebrew.

  What’s in a Name?

When I first learned of our friend’s view of scripture and the Name of Jesus, I was a bit daunted by the task ahead of me.  It has forced me to study carefully as I wanted to ensure that we spoke to them from an informed knowledge of their system.  Also, I wanted to ensure that we are not in error about these things either.  One of the first things they quoted to me was this particular Encyclopedia article that follows.

“… according to the ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA, the name Ieusus (Jesus) is a combination of 2 mythical deities, IEU and SUS (ZEUS, a Greek god).” – (www.wwyd.org).

I went to the link they recommended and I tracked this down to an obvious skeptic of Christianity who wrote a book called, “Dictionary of Christian Lore and Legend” by J.C.J. Metford.  It is no surprise to me that those who do such unscholarly work would quote a secular biased book as a source document for their views.  Incredibly, the original quotation does not even line up with the final source reference which claims that Iesous means, ‘worship Zeus’.

The`correct name” idea is refuted by the fact that three languages were

being used in Israel at the time of Christ. A form of Hebrew (Aramaic),

Greek and Latin were all being used. It was not usual for someone to

translate something into all these languages including names. For instance,

the inscription on the cross of Christ read in all three languages.

Therefore this inscription many of the Jews read, for the place where Jesus

was crucified was near the city; and it was written in Hebrew, Latin, and in

Greek. John 19:20

Here is the proper definition: Ἰησοῦς  Iesous  G2424

Jesus = “Jehovah is salvation”

1) Jesus, the Son of God, the Saviour of mankind, God incarnate

2) Jesus Barabbas was the captive robber whom the Jews begged Pilate to release instead of Christ

3) Joshua was the famous captain of the Israelites, Moses’ successor (Ac. 7:45, Heb. 4:8)

4) Jesus, son of Eliezer, one of the ancestors of Christ (Lu. 3:29)

5) Jesus, surnamed Justus, a Jewish Christian, an associate with Paul in the preaching of the gospel (Col. 4:11)

Χριστός  pronounced Kristos

G5547  Christ = “anointed”

1) the Messiah, the Son of God

2) anointed

I researched this idea of mythical deities names being Jesus Christ and found the website,www.askdrbrown.org which is filled with great articles on Semitic languages.  Dr. Brown is a Phd in Semitic languages which includes Hebrew and Aramaic, a Jew by birth, and a follower of the Messiah.  He is a worldwide recognized authority on this subject.  The following is a partial excerpt from Dr. Brown’s response to the aforesaid Britannica article.

The response to this statement (which has as much support as the latest Elvis sightings) is quite simple: We know where the name I­­esous came from: the Jewish Septuagint! In other words, this was not some later, pagan corruption of the Savior’s name; rather, it was the natural Greek way of rendering the Hebrew/Aramaic name Yeshua at least two centuries before His birth, and it is the form of the name found in more than 5,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. This is saying something! The name I­­esous is also found in Greek writings outside the New Testament and dating to that same general time frame.

Although it is claimed that the Encyclopedia Britannica says that “the name Ieusus (Jesus) is a combination of 2 mythical deities, IEU and SUS (ZEUS, a Greek god)” it actually says no such thing. This is a complete fabrication, intentional or not. In short, as one Jewish believer once stated, “Jesus is as much related to Zeus as Moses is to mice.”

Unfortunately, some popular teachers continue to espouse the Jesus-Zeus connection, and many believers follow the pseudo- scholarship in these fringe, “new revelation” teachings. Not only are these teachings and practices filled with error, but they do not profit in the least. So, to every English-speaking believer I say: Do not be ashamed to use the name JESUS! That is the proper way to say his name in English—just as Michael is the correct English way to say the Hebrew name mi-kha-el and Moses is the correct English way to say the Hebrew name mo-sheh. Pray in Jesus’ name, worship in Jesus’ name, and witness in Jesus’ name. And for those who want to relate to our Messiah’s Jewishness, then refer to him by His original name Yeshua—not Yahshua and not Yahushua—remembering that the power of the name is not in its pronunciation but in the person to whom it refers, our Lord and Redeemer and King.

SOURCE- askdrbrown.org/ask-dr-brown/35-ask-dr-brown/79-what-is-the-original– hebrew-name-for-jesus-and-is-it-true-that-the-name-jesus-greek-isssous-is- really-a-pagan-corruption-of-the-name-zeus

There must be some understanding of transliteration and translation as the Bible has been translated into thousands of languages but must on occasion where there are words that do not exist from one language to the other a transliteration must be made of that word.  In that case, letter by letter the corresponding word is formed into the new language making a new word in that language that did not exist before.

One example I will use is the Yehovah – Jehovah problem which sacred name believers use to point out the ‘errors’ of the Bible.  In Latin Yehovah is translated as Jehovah but they will use that and say, ‘Look there was no ‘J’s in the Hebrew language so Jehovah and Jesus could not be true.’  The problem with that is of course there are J’s authorized for use in Latin and English.

Conflicts in the arguments

From the YHWH point of view the Messianic prophecies in Isaiah 7:14 and Matt 1:22-24 must be corrupted.  We can see that this brings conflicts between the scriptures which must be explained away by this system of unbelief.  The book of Isaiah was written approx 700 B.C.  This is an awesome fulfillment of God’s Word from the OT to the NT providing evidence of our faith to believers and skeptics alike.

Is 7:14 Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel. [meaning God with us]

Matt 1:22-24

So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: 23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

These prophecies fulfilled reveal the errors of sacred name theology.

Is 9:6

For unto us a Child is born,  Unto us a Son is given;  And the government will be upon His shoulder.  And His name will be called  Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God,  Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

In this passage we see a multitude of names listed and the passage actually calls it, ‘His name’.  Notice that His name WILL BE…that is future tense, which they refuse to acknowledge.  The defenders of this doctrine will say those are just titles, but why doesn’t the Bible say, ‘And His titles will be called…’

They will often use this passage as the bulwark for their belief, inserting YHWH into this verse.

Is 42:8

I [am] the LORD, that [is] My name; And My glory I will not give to another, Nor My praise to carved images.

LXX Is 42:8 ἐγὼ κύριος ὁ θεός τοῦτό μού ἐστιν τὸ ὄνομα τὴν δόξαν μου ἑτέρῳ οὐ δώσω οὐδὲ τὰς ἀρετάς μου τοῖς γλυπτοῖς

In this passage, we see in the Hebrew transliterated Yehovah which we see has great similarity to YHWH.  Sacred name proponents will insert YHWH into this text.  But you can see by the Greek Septuagint written 250 B.C. the word is κύριος, which means Lord.  How could the Septuagint have a name in the text 250 BC when the corruption did not happen until 325 AD according to the SNM view?  That is an incredible 575 years of difference.

 Exodus 3:13-15

And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?  And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.  And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

In this passage God is calling Himself in the Hebrew:

H1961 hayah hayah  הָיָה This is a personal pronoun defined as, always existing being.

This word also matches the definition of Jehovah or Yehovah as always existent One.  So there is no problem with either the words or the definitions.  This describes God perfectly and is how we should think upon Him, the great eternal existing One.  Logically, we can see that though they are different languages or translations they have the same meaning, thus the same name.  How can any finite creature of God name the one who is eternal?  Essentially, most of these ‘names’ given in the Bible are descriptions of God.  When He is named it is by His hand within the Bible not ours.

Rev 19:12-13

His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself. He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.

Here we see that God has an unknown Name and another name called the Word of God.  Which in the G3004 λόγος and is defined as Logos  :

denoting the essential Word of God, Jesus Christ, the personal wisdom and power in union with God, his minister in creation and government of the universe, the cause of all the world’s life both physical and ethical, which for the procurement of man’s salvation put on human nature in the person of Jesus the Messiah, the second person in the Godhead, and shone forth conspicuously from His words and deeds.

We see this personal pronoun for Jesus again in John 1:1.  Just these two verses should be enough to convince anyone that YHWH only is inconsistent with the Bible.  The answer they will always give when faced with such evidence from the Bible is these verses were corrupted by Constantine. We have already proven is a false presumption.   This of course refers to this system of doubt of God’s Word instead of faith or trust in the same.

Rev 19:16

And He has on [His] robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

Here the word King is Baseloose G935 βασιλεύς and means prince, leader of the people, commander, lord of the land.

The word LORD G2962 all caps is Koorios κύριος and means

1) he to whom a person or thing belongs, about which he has power of deciding; master, lord

a) the possessor and disposer of a thing

1) the owner; one who has control of the person, the master

2) in the state: the sovereign, prince, chief, the Roman emperor

b) is a title of honour expressive of respect and reverence, with which servants greet their master

c) this title is given to: God, the Messiah

It is important to realize that to properly understand God’s Word we must harmonize or understand how all the verses fit together and make sense. If our understanding contradicts the simple reading of scripture, we don’t abandon scripture, but our idea. So, the obvious deduction here must be that God has used many names throughout the history and languages of mankind.  After all, God created language and He confused languages at the tower of Babel.  He also gives us the intelligence to translate/transliterate between languages that we may have understanding in communication.  The teaching of a particular ancient Hebrew ‘sacred’ name as the only way to pronounce and believe upon His name is false as we have shown and contradicts the Bible in many places.  This causes a stumbling block for both believers and unbelievers alike.  Lastly, I would say that it is not a problem if a believer desires to use the Name of YHWH.  It becomes problematic and unbiblical when someone says that this is the only authorized name for the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Historical Evidence, Secular and Extra-Biblical Christian

Introduction – In order to defuse the presupposition that their teacher Jerry was making about the corruption of the Bible by Constantine in 325 A.D., I thought it a good idea to bring in both secular and early believer history and writings to bear upon his assertions that YHWH only was historical and Constantine was responsible for making all of these supposed changes to the Bible.  There has been so much writing about Jesus Christ of Nazareth since the beginning of His appearance that it leaves no doubt that SNM teaching is false.

Secular Evidences

A1. CORNELIUS TACITUS (55 – 120 A.D.) Tacitus was a 1st and 2nd century Roman historian who lived through the reigns of over half a dozen Roman emperors. Considered one of the greatest historians of ancient Rome, Tacitus verifies the Biblical account of Jesus’ execution at the hands of Pontius Pilate who governed Judea from 26-36 A.D. during the reign of Tiberius.

“Christus, the founder of the [Christian] name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius. But the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, by through the city of Rome also.” Annals XV, 44

 

A2. GAIUS SUETONIUS TRANQUILLUS (69 – 130 A.D.) Suetonius was a prominent Roman historian who recorded the lives of the Roman Caesars and the historical events surrounding their reigns. He served as a court official under Hadrian and as an annalist for the Imperial House. Suetonius records the expulsion of the Christian Jews from Rome (mentioned in Acts 18:2) and confirms the Christian faith being founded by Christ.

“As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chrestus, [Claudius]expelled them from Rome.” Life of Claudius 25.4

 

A3. PLINY THE YOUNGER (63 – 113 A.D) Pliny the Younger admits to torturing and executing Christians who refused to deny Christ. Those who denied the charges were spared and ordered to exalt the Roman gods and curse the name of Christ. Pliny addresses his concerns to Emperor Trajan that too many citizens were being killed for their refusal to deny their faith.

“I asked them directly if they were Christians…those who persisted, I ordered away… Those who denied they were or ever had been Christians…worshiped both your image and the images of the gods and cursed Christ. They used to gather on a stated day before dawn and sing to Christ as if he were a god… All the more I believed it necessary to find out what was the truth from two servant maids, which were called deaconesses, by means of torture. Nothing more did I find than a disgusting, fanatical superstition. Therefore I stopped the examination, and hastened to consult you…on account of the number of people endangered. For many of all ages, all classes, and both sexes already are brought into danger…” Pliny’s letter to Emperor Trajan

 

Extra Biblical Evidence, Christian

B1.  CLEMENT OF ROME (? – 98? A.D.) Clement was a bishop of Rome. He was eventually martyred in approximately 98 A.D. Some speculate Paul was referring to Clement in Philippians 4:3 but this cannot be proven. Clement was a first century apostolic author, which gives credence to his first-hand account of early Christianity. In the passage below, Clement confirms the ministry of the disciples and some of the basic tenets of early Christianity.

“The Apostles received the Gospel for us from the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was sent forth from God. So then Christ is from God, and the Apostles are from Christ. Both therefore came of the will of God in the appointed order. Having therefore received a charge, and being fully assured through the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ and confirmed in the word of God will full assurance of the Holy Ghost, they went forth with the glad tidingsthat the kingdom of God should come. So preaching everywhere in country and town, they appointed their first fruits, when they had proved them by the Spirit, to be bishops and deacons unto them that should believe.”

 

B2. IGNATIUS OF ANTIOCH (? – ~100 A.D) Ignatius was a Bishop of Antioch reported to have been appointed to his position by Peter of whom he was a disciple. He is also believed to be a disciple of Paul and John. Ignatius was arrested by the Romans and executed as a martyr in the arena. Even though his testimony would ultimately lead to his death, Ignatius was adamant about the things he witnessed. He reinforces early Christian beliefs in the letters he penned while in prison. Even when execution was imminent, Ignatius refused to recant his faith.

“Jesus Christ who was of the race of David, who was the Son of Mary, who was truly born and ate and drank, was truly persecuted under Pontius Pilate, was truly crucified and died in the sight of those in heaven and on earth and those under the earth. Who moreover was truly raised from the dead, His father having raised Him, who in the like fashion will so raise us also who believe in Him.” Trallians

“He is truly of the race of David according to the flesh but Son of God by the Divine will and powered, truly born of a virgin and baptized by John that all righteousness might be fulfilled by Him, truly nailed up in the flesh for our sakes under Pontius Pilate and Herod the tetrarch… That He might set up an ensign unto all ages through His resurrection.” Smyrneans, 1

“Be ye fully persuaded concerning the birth and the passion and the resurrection, which took place in the time of the governorship of Pontius Pilate. For these things were truly and certainly done by Jesus Christ our hope.” Magnesians XI

 

B3.  QUADRATUS OF ATHENS (126 A.D.) Quadratus was an Athenian bishop and direct disciple of the Apostles. He is generally regarded as the first Christian apologist because of his defense given to Emperor Hadrian in 126 A.D. Quadratus points out the fact that a few who were healed and resurrected by Jesus lived until modern times.

“The deeds of our Savior were always before you, for they were true miracles. Those that were healed, those that were raised from the dead, who were seen, not only when healed and when raised, but were always present. They remained living a long time, not only while our Lord was on earth, but likewise when he had left the earth. So that some of them have also lived to our own times.” Eusebius IV III, 2

 

B4.  ARISTIDES THE ATHENIAN (126 A.D.) Aristides, along with Quadratus mentioned above, presented an apology to Emperor Hadrian during his stay in Athens in 126 A.D. Aristides describes the treatment of Jesus by His own people, the Jews, and contrasts their beliefs with those of the Christians.

“When the Son of God was pleased to come upon the earth, they received him with wanton violence and betrayed him into the hands of Pilate the Roman governor. Paying no respect to his good deeds and the countless miracles he performed among them, they demanded a sentence of death by the cross… Now the Christians trace their origin from the Lord Jesus Christ… The Son of the Most High God who came down from heaven, being born of a pure [Hebrew] virgin, for the salvation of men… And he was crucified, being pierced with nails by the Jews. And after three days He came to life again and ascended into heaven. His twelve apostles, after his ascension into heaven, went forth into the provinces of the whole world proclaiming the true doctrine… They who still observe the righteousness enjoined by their preaching are called Christians.” Apology XIV-XV

B5.  JUSTIN MARTYR (~100 – 165 A.D.) Justin Martyr, possibly the most well-known early Christian apologist, was an educated pagan philosopher who converted to Christianity around 130 A.D. Though he risked losing his wealth, status, and life, Justin fearlessly spread Christianity throughout Asia Minor and Rome. Refusing to recant his testimony, he was led to his death via scourging and beheading in 165 A.D. Being a thoroughly educated man, Justin weighed the evidence carefully before accepting his new faith and explains to the reader he made his decision only after careful consideration and research.

“There is a village in Judea, thirty-five stadia from Jerusalem, where Jesus Christ was born, as you can see from the tax registers under Cyrenius, your first procurator in Judea… He was born of a virgin as a man, and was named Jesus, and was crucified, and died, and rose again, and ascended into heaven… After He was crucified, all His acquaintances denied Him. But once He had risen from the dead and appeared to them and explained the prophecies which foretold all these things and ascended into heaven, the apostles believed. They received the power given to them by Jesus and went into the world preaching the Gospel.”First Apology, 34, 46, 50

“At the time of His birth, Magi from Arabia came and worshipped Him, coming first to Herod, who was then sovereign in your land… When they crucified Him, driving in the nails, they pierced His hands and feet. Those who crucified Him parted His garments among themselves, each casting lots… But you did not repent after you learned that He rose from the dead. Instead, you sent men into to the world to proclaim that a godless heresy had sprung from Jesus, a Galilean deceiver, whom was crucified and that His disciples stole His body from the tomb in order to deceive men by claiming He had risen from the dead and ascended into heaven.” Dialogue with Trypho, 77 97, 107-8

 Jesus Christ, who was crucified under Pontius Pilate, continue to heal, rendering helpless and driving the demons out of men, though they could not be cured by any other exorcists or those who used incantations and drugs.” Second Apology VI

 

Oneness Pentacostalism is a common denominator of the SNM though the names have changed to confuse the innocent.

Another good  resource on this issue:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2cOjz648FZ0

Sacred Name Movement refuted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PSjQWSJ_28&feature=share

 

Doctrine of Temptations

Sept 2, 2014

evestemptation

Temptations – Definitions, Sources and Responses

The Lord had been putting this issue on my heart for months. As I continue to study the issues of original sin, fleshly sin, etc. I find that the ‘church’ has systematized sin in a way that most understand it to be something we can’t help and God will overlook.

 1 Cor 10:12-14  Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

 Heb 4:15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.

Temptation Greek peirasmos(payrasmos) Strongs 3985

1)an experiment, attempt, trial, proving:

Gal 4:14 And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not, nor rejected; but received me as an angel of God, [even] as Christ Jesus.

2) an enticement to sin, temptation, whether arising from one’s desires or from the outward circumstances

a) an internal temptation to sin

Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted

b) of the temptation by which the devil sought to divert Jesus the Messiah from his work

Mark 1:13 And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.

When I was in Daytona Beach at Kerrigan’s grandfather’s 6th floor condo after the second day of preaching I was tempted to throw myself down, this happened again the third evening after preaching. Both times I was just relaxing and praying out on the balcony. Then on the way home, I had to tell Kerrigan about it and he said he endured the same temptation! Of course both times when I was faced with the adversary this way, I responded with God’s Word spoken/thought, prayer, and fleeing the balcony. When all this came out I knew we were doing the Lord’s work, and the devil was not happy. Praise God!

c) adversity, affliction, trouble: sent by God and serving to test or prove one’s character, faith, holiness. This greek word is naca(nasa) which means to test or refine like in metals for the good of the person.

Gen 22:1-2 Now it came to pass after these things that God tested Abraham, and said to him, “Abraham!” And he said, “Here I am.”  Then He said, “Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.” 

 3) an impotent temptation of God by men. This is rebellion against God, by which his power and justice are, as it were, put to the proof and challenged to show themselves as sinners.

Num 14:22-23 because all these men who have seen My glory and the signs which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have put Me to the test now these ten times, and have not heeded My voice, 23 they certainly shall not see the land of which I swore to their fathers, nor shall any of those who rejected Me see it.

Three Main Sources of Temptation: the Flesh, the World, and Satan

 A. The temptations of the ‘flesh’

It was the natural, physical lusts, cravings, or desires of the flesh which were the source of temptation for Eve in the Garden. (Gen 3:6) She “saw that it was good for food”, “pleasant to the eye”, and “desired to make one wise”. These were all natural, physical appetites for food and wisdom which she sought to gratify through sin or disobedience to God. This was the first case in history when a human being submitted their will to serve their flesh supremely rather than submitting their will to the truth of God revealed to their minds. This was the first case in the history of a human individual doing what felt or seemed good over against what she knew was good. And this is exactly what every sinner does.

Perfection is resisting, hating, and overcoming all known temptations by the power of the Holy Spirit working in cooperation with one’s will. One of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is self control.

-How perfect does Christ tell us to be? Matt 5:48 ‘Be ye perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.’

In Finney’s Systematic Theology pg. 191 speaking on influences or temptations states:

“Irritable feelings, or what is commonly called impatience, may be directly caused by ill health, irritable nerves, and by many things over which the will has no direct control. But this is not impatience in the sense of sin. If these feelings are not suffered to influence the will; if the will abides in patience; if such feelings are not cherished, and are not suffered to shake the integrity of the will; they are not sin. That is, the will does not consent to them, but the contrary. They are only temptations. If they are allowed to control the will, to break forth in words and actions, then there is sin; but the sin does not consist in the feelings, but in the consent of the will, to gratify them.”

These thoughts ring very true with my own experiences; if I am tired, sick, etc. my level of patience for various situations and people diminishes.

 

Responses to the temptation of the ‘flesh’:

‘flesh’ But, the suffering through this and controlling ourselves is the heart of the matter. What is happening inside as we practice this is a crucifixion of our flesh. We are to suppress these influences daily, this is part of bearing our cross.

Luke 9:23-24 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.

Rom 8:13-14 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Mark 14:38 Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly [is] ready, but the flesh [is] weak.

Warning, many in Christendom call this influence of the flesh; sin. Many in the world also desire to blame Adam as the federal head of our sin. Sin as clearly taught in the Bible is refusing to obey God who is worthy of that obedience.

The flesh has lusts, cravings, or desire, which can be gratified through the forbidden means of sin. (Gen 3:6) These lusts are at first involuntary lusts, cravings, or desires, being strictly physical and not moral. There are involuntary physical desires and then there are intentional committals of the will. One is involuntary while the other is intentional. The former is physical, the latter is moral. But involuntary physical impulses do not bring forth moral (or immoral) sin until the will selfishly serves them supremely (James 1:15) instead of self sacrificially serving the highest well-being of others. (Luke 10:27). Physical temptation becomes immoral sin when the will yields itself to it. –Jesse Morrell

 B. The temptations of the world (kosmos)

These temptations are the whole circle of earthly goods, endowments riches, advantages, pleasures, etc, which although hollow and frail and fleeting, stir desire, seduce from God and are obstacles to the cause of Christ

Mk 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Ps 73:12 Behold, these [are] the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase [in] riches.

Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

Peter Cartwright a traveling preacher in the Mississippi valley during the mid 1800’s stated this about a worldly temptation we see come to many ministers of God’s glorious gospel in every generation.

‘By the consent of all our traveling preachers, the bishop appoints from year to year every traveling preacher to his field of labor; this saves a vast amount of time and trouble in the ministry, in running about and seeking to contract with congregations for a specified time and stipulated amount of salary; moreover, it cuts off the temptation of selling the Gospel to the highest bidder….’

Responses to the temptations of the world.

Flee, Pray, and Capture

Flee those temptations

Matt 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another:

1 Tim 6:11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

Pray against those temptations

Matt 9:38 Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.

Luke 6:28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Capture the thoughts of temptation

2 Cor 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

Matt 6:31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

 

C. Temptations by Satan or his demons

Matt 4:7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Acts 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land?

I Cor 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except [it be] with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

Incontinency – denotes “powerless, impotent;” in a moral sense, unrestrained, “without self-control,” 2Ti 3:3, RV (AV, “incontinent”).

See SELF-CONTROL.

Self Control is a fruit of the Holy Spirit, not spoken of in many Christian circles.

Responses to devilish temptations

II Cor 2:9-11 For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things. To whom ye forgive any thing, I [forgive] also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave [it], for your sakes [forgave I it] in the person of Christ;Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

II Cor 2:14 Now thanks [be] unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.

II Cor 12:8-10 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ’s sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.

James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

 

Conclusions:

John Wesley speaking on temptation and the Christian desire to be perfect as God is perfect, said,

“From such infirmities as these none are perfectly freed till their spirits return to God; neither can we expect till then to be wholly freed from temptation; for ‘the servant is not above his master.’”

II Cor 13:4:5 For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you. Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Gal 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance(self control): against such there is no law.

Heb 2:17-18 Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For in that He Himself has suffered, being tempted, He is able to aid those who are tempted.

1 John 2:3-6 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

How did Jesus walk? Perfect of course. He was tempted as we but he resisted and had victory over sin and the devil. We ought to walk the same way.

As we walk out our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ we are to examine ourselves, test, adjust our thinking, deeds, and motives to align our will with the Word of God and His will to be done here on earth as it is in Heaven. Amen.

Scriptures and teachings from Youtube:

James 1:2-3  My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience

Why? becuase it is an opportunity to show God you love Him by not sinning. Well, it’s one of many reasons….

 James 1:12  Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.

We are considered free from sin after putting faith in Jesus, because we are no longer under bondage to it(slaves to sin can’t help but sin). Sin is always a choice and it never happens automatically against your will. Sin is a choice from our hearts. It doesn’t originate from the playground the Devil likes to mess with called the mind. Stop saying your temptation is sin, because that is bondage. You will never learn how to live free from sin if you believe sin is automatic and every little evil thought that pops in your head is sin. Jesus had those thoughts too because he was tempted as we are.

 1 Corinthians 10:13  There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. God always leaves a way out , so sin doesn’t HAVE to happen.

2 Peter 2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

Self-control, when free will is submitted unto God, is possible and required for all moral agents. No matter what temptations a person’s nature inherits (natural or unnatural desires) they never have to obey these temptations (1 Cor. 10:13). Because of free will, or man’s natural ability, he is responsible and accountable for his choices, he cannot blame it on his nature.

God has given us natural desires that can be gratified lawfully or unlawfully (Gen. 3:6).

“When God made us He gave us many different appetites… But God looked at the being He made and to whom He had given all these appetites and urges and said, ‘It is good!” Paris Reidhead

(Finding the Reality of God, pg 141)

A. We have a natural desire for food (Gen. 2:16).

B. We have a natural desire for sexual relations (Gen. 1:28; 2:24).

C. We have a natural desire for well-being (Gen. 2:18).

D. The natural desire God has created us with are good, not evil (Gen. 1:31).

3. Sin is when the will of man seeks to gratify a natural desire in an unlawful manner (Gen. 3:6).

A. Our natural desire for food can be used for gluttony.

B. Our natural desire for sexual relations can be used for fornication, adultery, or homosexuality.

C. Our natural desire for well-being can lead to selfishness and greed.

“Now temptation is not sin. Temptation is the proposition presented to the mind that you can satisfy a good appetite in a forbidden way. Temptation leads to sin…. Sin is the decision of the will…. sin is the decision to gratify a good appetite in a bad way.” Paris Reidhead

(Finding the Reality of God, pg 141-142)

“Don’t mistake temptation for sin. Temptation is a suggestion to gratify a desire in an illegal way

or amount. Temptation is not sin. Jesus was tempted.” Winkie Pratney

(Youth Aflame, Bethany House, pg. 83).

“The bodily appetites and tendencies of body and mind, when strongly excited, become the

occasions of sin. So it was with Adam. No one will say that Adam had a sinful nature. But he

had, by his constitution, an appetite for food and a desire for knowledge. These were not sinful

but were as God made them. They were necessary to fit him to live in this world as a subject of

God’s moral government. But being strongly excited led to indulgence, and thus became the

occasions of his sinning against God. These tendencies were innocent in themselves, but he

yielded to them in a sinful manner, and that was his sin.” Charles Finney

(You Can Be Holy, published by Whitaker House, p. 215).

“We have a nature that is capable of being perverted from legitimate to illegitimate, from the natural to the unnatural, from the pure to the polluted.” Sin is to “pervert… natural, legitimate, human desires.” F. Lagard Smith

(Troubling Questions for Calvinists, page 134-135).

Doctrine of Passive Non Resistance

The Doctrine of Passive Non-resistance

Primary goals of this teaching are:

• To realize as the body of Christ, God is our defense

• To prepare ourselves spiritually and physically for coming persecution

• To examine our walks in light of Jesus’ commands

• To obey Jesus’ commands to resist defending oneself, family, or neighbors against evil men in an ungodly way

Passive Non-Resistance Defined

Passive – receiving, enduring, or submitting without resistance:

Non-Resistance –negate the act or power of resisting, opposing, or withstanding.

Some background concerning my life and views for the reader’s understanding.  I have a family that is steeped in past proud military traditions.  On my father’s side of the family; my father was a Marine for four years earning Staff Sgt before getting out after the Bay of Pigs fiasco.  My grandfather was a waist gunner in a B-24 stationed with the 8th Air Force in England during WWII.  He was shot down by Anti aircraft fire on Jan 7th, 1944.  Most of the crew bailed out except the tail and ball turret gunners, and my grandfather.  The SS gestapo shot and killed them as they exited the downed aircraft.  They were not known for taking POW’s who were injured in the fighting.  My great grandfather was an infantry man in WWI in the south of France in 1917.  He survived the war.  My great great grandfather was a Colonel in the CSA part of the Tennessee Volunteers killed at Rocky Top, TN.  My matriarchal side of  my family I only know of  a great uncle who has retired from the U.S. Coast Guard service as an Admiral.  I served 21 years in the U.S. Navy as a Boatswains Mate, Quartermaster, and Signalman retiring in 2001 as a Chief Quartermaster.  I served on five different warships, have four rows of medals, campaign ribbons, unit awards.  I spent upwards of 15 years stationed aboard ship, 12 of that actually either deployed overseas or underway training to go overseas.  So, needless to say, I was a patriot to the core. Sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States from enemies both foreign and domestic.  When the Lord convicted me of these issues over the course of some months I did not take these matters lightly!    Here is a book, along with the Bible, which really helped to solidify my views in seeking the truth on these issues.   A Change of Allegiance by Dean Taylor

Scriptural support for Passive Non Resistance

Matt 5:38-48 You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away. 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectorsj do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

[Resist GR 436 anthistēmi än-thē’-stā-mē 1. to set one’s self against, to withstand, resist, oppose]

Matt 10:16-39 “Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves. 17 But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues. 18 You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; 20 for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you. 21 “Now brother will deliver up brother to death, and a father his child; and children will rise up against parents and cause them to be put to death. 22 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved. 23 When they persecute you in this city, flee to another. For assuredly, I say to you, you will not have gone through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes.24 “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. 25 It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub,[d] how much more will they call those of his household! 26 Therefore do not fear them. For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. 27 “Whatever I tell you in the dark, speak in the light; and what you hear in the ear, preach on the housetops. 28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will. 30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Do not fear therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows. 32 “Therefore whoever confesses Me before men, him I will also confess before My Father who is in heaven. 33 But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36 and a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ 37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.

Luke 6:27-36 “But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you. 29 To him who strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. 30 Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him who takes away your goods do not ask them back. 31 And just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise.32 “But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you hope to receive back, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back. 35 But love your enemies, do good, and lend, hoping for nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is kind to the unthankful and evil. 36 Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.

 Rom 12:14-21  Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, and weep with those who weep. 16 Be of the same mind toward one another. Do not set your mind on high things, but associate with the humble. Do not be wise in your own opinion.17 Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18 If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,”says the Lord. 20 Therefore “ If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

John 18:35-37 Pilate answered, “Am I a Jew? Your own nation and the chief priests have delivered You to me. What have You done?”36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”37 Pilate therefore said to Him, “Are You a king then?”Jesus answered, “You say rightly that I am a king. For this cause I was born, and for this cause I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.

 A Few Distinctions

We need to make a few distinctions here: 1. persecutions by the world 2. persecutions by the professing ‘church’.  Both of these types of persecutions come from the world  which is under the authority of Satan’s system of lies and deception. But, the latter is very deadly because it is very subtle and causes divisions in the real body of Christ.

Some Historical Background of the Persecutions of the Body of Jesus Christ.

Constantine brought a new era in the church era; marrying the church with the state. This hybrid gospel fostered corruption in the church at every level. Christians who for the first three hundred years of the church were brutalized by the world were now accepted. Persecution subsided for the time. This hybrid corrupt church began to make up it’s own traditions and theologies. Under Constantine’s close scrutiny the organized visible church began to conduct councils which were necessary to uphold this mutant gospel and suppress the gospel of love in Jesus. The visible state church began to persecute those who would not agree with their authority, interpretation, or translation of the Bible.

But here is what Jesus taught:

Matt 26:51-53  And suddenly, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword, struck the servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear.52 But Jesus said to him, “Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword. 53 Or do you think that I cannot now pray to My Father, and He will provide Me with more than twelve legions of angels?

Early Church Believers thoughts on PNR

THE EPISTLE OF IGNATIUS TO THE SMYRAEANS. ECF Vol 1 Ch 4 para 2

But I guard you beforehand from these beasts in the shape of men, from those beasts in the shape of men, whom you must not only not receive, but, if it be possible, not even meet with; only you must pray to God for them, if by any means they may be brought to repentance, which, however, will be very difficult. Yet Jesus Christ, who is our true life, has the power of[effecting] this. But if these things were done by our Lord only in appearance, then am I also only in appearance bound. And why have I also surrendered myself to death, to fire, to the sword, to the wild beasts? But,[in fact,] he who is near to the sword is near to God; he that is among the wild beasts is in company with God; provided only he be so m the name of Jesus Christ. I undergo all these things that I may suffer together with Him,

The Donatists movement which lasted about 400 years refused to bow down to this new mutant gospel of Constantine. However, they appealed the injustices of the North African Catholics to Constantine to resolve issues between the RCC and the local Donatist bishops. They were suppressed and maligned for a hundred years and then in 411 they finally had a time for disputing the matters in Carthage.

A disputation was then arranged in Carthage (411), Collatio cum Donatistis. Two hundred and eighty six Catholic and two hundred and seventy-nine Donatist bishops were present: Augustine and Aurelius were the speakers of the former; Primianus and Patilianus, those of the latter. For three days the debate lasted, but no result was arrived at. Finally the imperial commissioner declared the Donatists vanquished, and very severe measures were decided upon against them. In 414 they lost all civil rights; in 415 they were forbidden to assemble for worshipping, under penalty of death. Nevertheless, they had not become extinct, when, in the seventh century, the Saracens(Islam) occupied the country, and destroyed the African Church and the RCC of that area.
SOURCE: Early Church Website

Augustine’s false teachings have lead millions astray from the gospel of peace, into a gospel of the sword. These empowered councils united with the earthly kings, queens, governments, bishops, and popes would be responsible for the massive horrors of what would become the crusades and inquisitions.

Many Muslims point to the Crusades as an illustration of violent church action. It is true that many unethical acts were done during the military campaigns of the Crusades. It was a time in history that scholars have labeled the “Dark Ages.” Muslim forces had been attacking Christian countries for centuries. Their conquests included the “Holy Land” of Israel. The motivation for the Crusades found its root in reports that Muslims were desecrating Christian holy sites and persecuting Christians on pilgrimage to the Holy Land. The first knights took their vows in AD 1095 when Pope Urban II organized the troops to “liberate the Holy Land from the Muhammadans.” Many of the Crusaders went beyond their mission and forgot their Christian ideals as they sought earthly revenge and treasure. Their atrocities, however, were not motivated by the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
SOURCE: A Topical Study of Islam by M. J. Fisher, M.Div.

We can see in church history this problem of professing Christians taking up arms against others when Jesus taught us to love our neighbor and pray for our enemies. Sometimes the ones being persecuted were Christians who are trying to be obedient to Christ not a particular religious system or government.

Probably the most famous protagonist of the just war theory is John Calvin, who used force to kill, torture and imprison his neighbors in the name of God.  From the Calvin Seminary website we find:

An aspect of Calvin’s teaching on the state relates to his position on war. This study shows that Calvin positioned himself in continuity with the medieval just war tradition established by Augustine of Hippo. He did not believe in either element of what constituted a holy war—authorization by the church or the prosecution of war without restraint. He stood within the mainstream tradition when it came to both the jus ad bellum and the jus in bello. He always insisted that the private individual may only offer passive resistance to a ruler’s ungodly commands. A parliamentary body alone is authorized by God to resist a tyrannical prince.
SOURCE: Calvin College Website Mark Lawson article

This is exactly why the ‘Christians’ during the Civil War in our own country wore both blue and gray!  Brother against brother, son against father, uncle against nephew, and cousin against cousin were not uncommon situations across the Mason Dixon line.  If someone is ready to kill one of our children what would we be our response? Of course no one wants a loved one killed at the hands of an evil person. I would do everything in my power short of violence to protect my family. I pray I would respond with: laying down my life in love, prayer, family fleeing, command in Jesus’ name, pleading, exhortation to come to Christ, informing them that they could do nothing lest God allowed them, and defend them with my body from the attackers.  So, please dear reader do not say that those of our passive view would do nothing.  That is the farthest from the truth, we would do nothing in regards to carnal weaponry, military or martial art tactics to kill those who have made themselves our enemies.

Matt 10:37-39 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it.

I must confess this has not been my attitude at all until the early 2009 when I considered what Jesus taught on these issues.  My lifelong dedication to patriotism, country, honor, etc was evaporating before my eyes. We must realize that if we kill someone, then we have sent them into eternity, no matter how horrible the earthly deed/s they are committing. The Bible states that God holds the keys to life and death, not us.

Rom 13:1-7  Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.

In Rom 13:2 the word resist is GR. Antitassō which has two meanings:

1) to arrange in battle against

2) to oppose one’s self, resist

Most American Christians will use this verse to justify warmongering, and obedience to unlawful commands by the government. Resisting in this case is to plan to overthrow or to change by force. It does not mean resisting unlawful orders from that same government. Notice the passage asks, “Do you want to be unafraid….Do what is good. Would Hitler tell you to do what is good? Do what is right for God’s kingdom and then you will have nothing to fear from him. The authorities may kill you or put you in jail in the process of obeying God and disobeying them. But, Romans 13 is NOT saying to do that which is evil because you must obey them.

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Justifying Ourselves to Defend Ourselves

In the following passage many in our day and past will point to this Scripture passage to support their argument in support of defending oneself.  But are there any alternative reasons why Jesus would command them to bring two swords?

Luke 22:35-36 And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?” So they said, “Nothing.” 36 Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37 For I say to you that this which is written must still be accomplished in Me: ‘And He was numbered with the transgressors.’ For the things concerning Me have an end.” 38 So they said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.” And He said to them, “It is enough.”

Most people will not consider the day in which this passage was written.  In order to butcher an animal or defend themselves from wild animals they would need a few swords. Not to mention cutting wood, wheat, or other basic needs that we don’t even consider if they did not have axes, hatchets, or knives.  But, to properly defend themselves or to properly institute the just war theory they would need at least 13 swords, 13 spears, 13 shields, 13 horses, and much, much more against the Roman Legions! Jesus would need those things to defend Himself right?  So, in light of all the other teachings of Jesus which teach contradictory to the ‘Just War’ view, to use this passage to defend our right to defend our selves or families is fallacious nonsense.

There are many prophecies of Jesus’ laying down of His life for others to be saved verses laying down His life to take the lives of others.  In this account:

Isaiah 53:12 And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors.

Aren’t we called to lay down our lives as well?

The following passage is often used to justify self defense.

 Psa 82:3-4 Defend the poor and fatherless; Do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy;
Free them from the hand of the wicked.

vs. 3 the word defend is shaphat H8199;  1) to judge, govern, vindicate, punish 1) to act as law-giver or judge or governor (of God, man)  a) to rule, govern, judge  2) to decide controversy (of God, man)  3) to execute judgment  a) discriminating (of man)  b) vindicating  c) condemning and punishing  d) at theophanic advent for final judgment b) (Niphal)  1) to enter into controversy, plead, have controversy together  2) to be judged  (c) (Poel) judge, opponent-at-law (participle)  4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid [them] out of the hand of the wicked.

vs. 4 the word deliver is (Palat H6403); to escape, save, deliver, slip away  a) (Qal) to escape  b) (Piel)  1) to bring into security, deliver  2) to cause to escape, cast forth ) to be delivered  4) to slip away  c) (Hiphil) to bring into security, bring to safety

Bringing the orphans, widows, or destitute out of a difficult, life threatening circumstances is honorable and necessary.  But, for the Christians we must do so in a way which honors the commands of Jesus over the thinking of men.  I would add here that governments are given a responsibility to defend it’s citizens from the evil doer.  Rom 13:1-4  The question becomes how involved should we as Christians be in that system, if at all?

Why is PNR so important to a Christian?

These commands of of God are of great importance to a follower of Christ. Here are few of the reasons for their importance:

1. to be obedient to God in all areas, loving Him with all of our heart,mind,strength, and soul.

2. to hold on to nothing personal or material

3. to gird ourselves in the time of testing/temptations that we will not fall away by denying our Lord Jesus.

4. It does not happen here in America yet, but there will come a day when families are decimated for the Name above every Name.

5. Not to be drawn into a profession that does not honor God and His Word, ie. Military, police, or security

6.  Avoid the guilt of murder upon our consciences and others.

7.  To be a good example to the disciples of Christ especially our wives and children.

8.  That our enemies would be blessed  with our actions toward them instead of sent to an early hell.

How do We Practice This Doctrine?

We would seek the Holy Spirit to do the following:

1. Resist the temptation to kill

2. Resist not an evil man

3. We pray

4. We speak boldly the gospel

5. We stand

6. We flee

7. We take up God’s armor Eph 6:13-20

Eph 6:13-20 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; 18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints— 19 and for me, that utterance may be given to me, that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the gospel, 20 for which I am an ambassador in chains; that in it I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

 More Thoughts on Family, Friends, and Enemies

Jesus died for all of our family, friends, and enemies that is why He instructs us not to resist their evil intents. If our earthly governments punish manslaughter,(accidental or defensive killing) why do we justify these acts before our Lord as if He didn’t give us a law? Jesus Christ when talking to the rich young ruler,

 Matt 19:16-19  Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”  So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good?  No one is good but One, that is, God.But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”  He said to Him, “Which ones?” Jesus said, “ ‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’  ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’”

Many times Christians will try and justify killing by saying it is not murder. But, here is a comparison of the two words in Hebrew and Greek.

GR 5406 phoneuō ;1) to kill, slay, murder 2) to commit murder

Exodus 20:13 “Thou shall not kill.” H7523 ratsach means; 1) to murder, slay, kill 1a) (Qal) to murder, slay 1) premeditated 2) accidental 3) as avenger 4) slayer (intentional) (participle) b) (Niphal) to be slain

This primary Hebrew definition covers all the bases on this issue; ‘Thou shalt not, murder, slay, or kill’.

I would like to ask the dear reader here a few rhetorical question.  Suppose you were enlisted in the military as a believer, trained to kill and destroy the ‘enemies’ of the United States.  You were trained, then deployed to the middle east, where another believer had enlisted or was conscripted into the Iragi army.  Now, you are facing your ‘enemy’ on the battlefield with your scope clicked down on the side of his head of another human being.  This head belongs to that believer I just mentioned but you don’t know that.  Guess what?  The Iraqi believer that is being now shot at by his enemy doesn’t know that the one shooting at him is a believer either.  Now you are both in the position of killing a spiritual brother but both of you are ignorant.  How could the hand of the body of Christ, chop off the finger of Christ?

Matt 5:21-22  “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’  But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.

The Greek for the word angry is the GR orgizo G3710 and means: 1) to provoke, to arouse to anger 2) to be provoked to anger, be angry, be wroth

This is very convicting for me personally because I know that in the open air and message boards I have provoked people to anger, even the brethren. I also temper that with knowing that preaching brings anger and hatred which I am not responsible for that as long as I am conducting myself blamelessly before the Lord and and the world.

 Rev. 13:9-10 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.  He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

I was meditating on this and thought of my family whom I would die for sacrificially and the Lord put this on my mind. I died for my enemies, will you? Of course one of the most difficult parts of this doctrine is my family. But, the Lord teaches that a man and wife become one when they consummate their marriage. So, if someone attacks my wife they are attacking me. What should my/our response be? Resist not an evil man. What about the scenario of an attack on our children? Same response because our children are of us, just like Jesus is of His Father in heaven. This relationship between parents and children is a shadow of the triune relationship. Or course if we are of Jesus, part of His body, and the Head commands that we leave all these issues up to Him and not to defend ourselves; what should we do? What is the conclusion of the matter?

In the passage below, James and John had a spirit of vengeance about them and got rebuked by the Creator of the Universe for their ungodly zeal.
Luke 9:52-56 and sent messengers before His face. And as they went, they entered a village of the Samaritans, to prepare for Him. 53 But they did not receive Him, because His face was set for the journey to Jerusalem. 54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them. And they went to another village.

In speaking of the judgment to come for the greedy oppressors of the world the Apostle James writes in reproof.

James 5:6 You have condemned, you have murdered the just; he does not resist you.

 Heb 4:12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Great video debate on this issue:

Here is an excellent testimony of a brother in the Lord doing spiritual battle and being delivered from a murderous madman with a machete.

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Here is a great video of a believer exercising her faith in the power of the Name of Christ in spiritually defending herself and a customer in her store.

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Here is a great video of a 92 year old sister in Christ who defended herself with God’s Word which is the spiritual sword and her faith which was her shield from a mugger who jumped in her car at a Walmart:

http://faithtap.com/420/grandma-witnesses-to-robber/

2 Cor 10:3-6  For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds,casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.

Friend to you have a carnal view on this important issue?
Rom 8:6-8  For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
Here is an interesting letter from Br. Britt Williams concerning this matter to a famous open air preacher:

Non Resistance by Britt Williams rights reserved Consuming Fire Fellowship

Here is a fellowship with Anabaptist/Mennonite roots which takes a different take on this issue which I am currently studying and considering:

Mennonite Teaching on Vengeance

Here is a great video of Pastor Troy Bohn and his Raven Group being continually assaulted on the street and how Troy responded.

Never a dull moment at Raven Street Church . . . we continued to minister for the next couple of hours and had a great time in Jesus as many came to the Cross! "No weapon formed against us will prosper…" GOD IS GOOD!

Posted by Troy D. Bohn on Sunday, April 5, 2015

This is the only area I am unsure of in my views on this.  If people are being attacked then should you constrain the individual until the authorities arrive?  Going back to the definition of, ‘not resisting’ it means to not overthrow or arrange in battle against.  So, does a civil arrest or constraint amount to the same thing as ‘resist’?  Seek the Holy Spirit for understanding, I know I will.

 

ROMANS 7: THE LAST REFUGE FOR SIN EXPOSED-BROTHER MICAH ARMSTRONG

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I highly recommend all the holy saints of God copy this article to a document on their computers to give them the organized ammunition they need to battle the scourge of the carnal ‘Christian’s’ theory that we all sin everyday in thought, word, and deed.    Used with kind permission from Bro Micah.      

            Usually when preaching and talking to sinners and professing Christians about God’s command to repent from sin (Acts 17:30-31) and command to live a holy, sin free obedient life (Hebrews 12:14, 1 Peter 1:15-16, 1 Thessalonians 4:7) they will bring up Romans 7.  It is a shame people will use God’s holy Word that commands holiness as an excuse to sin and Romans 7 has been used as one of the biggest excuses. 

The purpose of this tract is to show the Apostle Paul was not talking about his experience after he was converted in Romans 7 but is writing about his experience before he was converted.  Paul grew up as a religious Jew under Jewish law.

First in Romans 6 Paul makes it abundantly plain the Christian is to be dead to sin and free from sin.

Romans 6:2-How shall we that are DEAD TO SIN LIVE ANY LONGER THEREIN?

Romans 6:6-Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Him that the body of sin might be destroyed, THAT HENCEFORTH WE SHOULD NOT SERVE SIN.

Romans 6:7-For he that is dead is FREED FROM SIN.

Romans 6:11-Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be DEAD INDEED UNTO SIN, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 6:12-LET NOT SIN THEREFORE REIGN IN YOUR MORTAL BODY, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Romans 6:13-NEITHER YIELD YE YOUR MEMBERS AS INSTRUMENTS OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS UNTO SIN:

Romans 6:14-FOR SIN SHALL NOT HAVE DOMINION OVER YOU: for ye are not under the law but under grace.

Romans 6:15-What then?  SHALL WE SIN, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT UNDER THE LAW BUT UNDER GRACE?  GOD FORBID.

Romans 6:16-Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey, WHETHER OF SIN UNTO DEATH or of obedience unto righteousness.

Romans 6:17-But God be thanked, that YE WERE THE SERVANTS OF SIN, but have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

Romans 6:18-BEING THEN MADE FREE FROM SIN, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Romans 6:22-But now BEING MADE FREE FROM SIN, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness and the end everlasting life.

The whole subject of Romans 6 is once grace has been received the believer is to be dead to sin, free from sin’s power, live in victory over sin, and have dominion over sin.

In Romans 8 Paul makes it abundantly clear the believer who walks in the Spirit will not walk in the flesh and will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh which is sin (Galatians 5:16-25).

Romans 8:1-There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus who WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH BUT AFTER THE SPIRIT.

Galatians 5:16-This I say then WALK  IN THE SPIRIT AND YOU SHALL NOT FULFILL THE LUSTS OF THE FLESH.  If we are walking in the Spirit we are not fulfilling the lusts of the flesh.

Romans 8:2-For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has MADE ME FREE FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH.

For someone to use Romans 7 as an excuse to sin you would have to make Paul contradict everything he wrote in Romans 6 and Romans 8.  Either the Bible contradicts itself or people are taking Romans 7 out of context.

After Paul finishes Romans 6 he gives a brief analogy in Romans 7:1-3 of the believer’s relationship to the law and to Jesus Christ.  He gives an example of a woman married to an husband.  As long as the husband is alive she is married to the husband.  She is bound to her husband as long as he lives.  However once the husband is dead she is free from being married to her husband.  He uses this example to compare the believers relationship with the law and with Christ.  Before a person is in Christ they are under the law.  Once the person is in Christ they are married to Christ and no longer under the law.  In the example the dead husband represents the law, the living husband represents Jesus Christ and the believer is represented by the wife (Romans 7:4).

This example introduces the subject of the remainder of Romans 7.  It is the person before Christ and still under the law.  This is very clear as the chapter continues.

Romans 7:4-Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to Him who is raised from the dead, that ye should bring forth fruit unto God.

Now the believer is dead to the law and married to Christ.  Now that we are married to Christ we are to bring forth fruit unto God.  We are to no longer bring forth the “fruit unto death” talked about in the next verse when we were “in the flesh”.

Romans 7:5-For WHEN WE WERE IN THE FLESH, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth FRUIT UNTO DEATH.

Here Paul is clearly talking about his past life in the flesh.  Paul makes it clear in Romans 8:8-9-SO THEN THEY THAT ARE IN THE FLESH CANNNOT PLEASE GOD.  BUT YE ARE NOT IN THE FLESH, BUT IN THE SPIRIT, IF SO BE THAT THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELLETH IN YOU.

If someone is born again the Spirit of God dwells in them and they are no longer “in the flesh”.

Paul shows us a contrast of those “in the flesh” who mind or obey the things of the flesh versus those “in the Spirit” who mind or obey the things of the Spirit of God.

Romans 8:5-For THEY THAT ARE AFTER THE FLESH DO MIND THE THINGS OF THE FLESH; but THEY THAT ARE AFTER THE SPIRIT THE THINGS OF THE SPIRIT.

He finishes verse 5 talking about those in the flesh “bring forth fruit unto death”.  The wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23) and everyone knows that means eternal separation from God.  Romans 8:6-FOR TO BE CARNALLY MINDED IS DEATH but to be spiritually minded is LIFE AND PEACE.  Another way of saying someone is in the flesh is they are carnal.  They are not governed by the Holy Spirit of God but rather by their senses.  They are governed by their bodily appetites and not the Spirit of God.  Some try to teach there is such a thing as carnal Christians but not according to the Bible.

Romans 8:7-BECAUSE THE CARNAL MIND IS ENMITY AGAINST GOD FOR IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF GOD NEITHER INDEED CAN BE.  The carnal person is at enmity against God and is not in subjection to God’s law to love Him and his neighbor (Matthew 22:37-40) as the Bible commands.

To be carnally minded is death (Romans 8:6).  The wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23).  The man in the flesh brought forth fruit unto death (Romans 7:5).  The carnal mind is enmity against God (Romans 8:7). So here Paul is not talking about his post conversion experience but rather his pre conversion experience before Christ “in the flesh” and bringing forth “fruit unto death”.

Romans 7:6-BUT NOW WE ARE DELIVERED FROM THE LAW, that BEING DEAD wherein we WERE HELD; that we should SERVE IN NEWNESS OF SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE OLDNESS OF THE LETTER.

Now Paul is contrasting his present life no longer under the law (Romans 8:2), and dead in trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1, Romans 8:6, 13) with his new life in the Spirit (Romans 8:2), walking in the Spirit (Galatians 5:16), and free from sin (Romans 6:18, 22, Romans 8:2).

Romans 8:1-There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus who not after the flesh but after the Spirit.

There is no condemnation only to those who are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh but after the spirit.  If you are walking in the Spirit you are not fulfilling the lusts of the flesh.

Romans 8:2-For the LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS HAS MADE ME FREE FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH.

Romans 7:6-BUT NOW WE ARE DELIVERED FROM THE LAW, that BEING DEAD wherein we WERE HELD; that we should SERVE IN NEWNESS OF SPIRIT, AND NOT IN THE OLDNESS OF THE LETTER.

Paul is talking about the same life in the Spirit in Romans 7:6 that he is talking about in 8:2.

Romans 7:7-What shall we say then?  Is the law sin?  God forbid.  Nay, I had not known sin but by the law: for I had not known lust except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

If Paul was writing about his post conversion experience then why would he be saying above he did not even know what sin was.  How could the great apostle Paul not know what sin was as a mature Christian?

Paul was writing about his preconversion experience as a Jew growing up under Jewish law.  If anyone was self righteous enough, disciplined enough, and moral enough to earn salvation through keeping the law it would have been the Apostle Paul.  Yet Paul growing up as the Pharisee of Pharisees and touching the righteousness which is of the law blameless  (Phillipians 3:5-6) he was convicted of his self centered covetous lifestyle by the law.

Romans 7:8-But sin, taking occasion by the commandment wrought in me all manner of concupiscence.  For without the law sin was dead.

The law was holy, just and good (Romans 7:12) as Paul later points out.  The problem is not with the law.  It should be obeyed.  It shows man his sin, it shows man the holiness of God, and it shows man his need of a Savior.  That is the purpose of the law and the subject of Romans 7.  You cannot be saved by keeping the law and you need a Savior.

The law showed Paul his sinfulness.  Paul seemed to be very moral and righteous but the law exposed his self centered lifestyle.

Romans 7:9-For I was alive without the law once but when the commandment came sin revived and I died.

The law showed Paul his sin.  Paul thought he was pleasing God until the law exposed his sin.

Romans 7:10-And the commandment which was ordained to life I found to be unto death.

That which was holy and just and good was the means of showing Paul the religious, moral self righteous Pharisee of Pharisees how far short he fell of God’s standard.

Romans 7:11-For sin taking occasion by the commandment deceived me and by it slew me.

Romans 7:12-Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

As an unconverted Jew Paul does not speak evil of the law.  He holds it in high esteem.  He reveres it.  It is just and good. He does not treat it with disdain as many claim all unsaved people will do.  He admitted it should have been obeyed but he had not the grace to obey it with the heart (Romans 6:17), only from an outward, legal standpoint.

Romans 7:13-Was then that which is good made death unto me?  God forbid.  But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good;  That sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

Now we come to a very important point. This may be the most important verse in understanding Romans 7.

Romans 7:14-For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Paul now says in the present tense “I am carnal”.  To be carnal means you are governed by the senses and not governed by the Spirit of God.

You cannot be free of condemnation if you are not walking in the Spirit (Romans 8:1).  You are fulfilling the lusts of the flesh and not walking in the Spirit if you are carnal (Galatians 5:16, Romans 8:2).  You cannot even be a child of God unless you are led by the Spirit of God (Romans 8:14).

“I am carnal”.  To be carnally minded is death (Romans 8:6) and the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23) which means to be eternally separated from God.  The carnal mind (one who is governed by the flesh and not the Spirit of God-Romans 8:5) is enmity against God (Romans 8:7).  You cannot be against God and a loving follower of God at the same time.  The carnal mind is not in subjection (obedience) to God’s law (Romans 8:7) so one who is carnal does not love God (John 14:15). If you do not love God you are against Him according to the words of Jesus Christ (Matthew 6:24).

Then Paul says in the last part of verse 14 “sold under sin”.  How can one be sold under sin and redeemed from sin at the same time?  To be redeemed means to be bought back from.  Bought back from under the slavery of sin.  The New Testament repeatedly makes references to the believer being bought back from sin (1 Corinthians 6:19-20, 7:23, Ephesians 1:7, Colossians 1:14, 1 Peter 1:18-19) and redeemed from sin.  You cannot be sold under sin and redeemed from sin at the same time.

Now we have a picture of an unregenerate man, a religious Jew who has strived to please God by keeping the law but realizes he cannot.

Romans 7:15-For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

This is not the testimony of one who has been saved by grace (Ephesians 2:8-9) because “The grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men teaching us that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts we should live soberly, righteously and godly in this present world” (Titus 2:11-12).

The grace that saves from sin does not just give us forgiveness for the penalty of sin but also victory over the power of sin.  If there is no victory over the power of sin then there is no forgiveness for the penalty of sin (John 8:32, 34, 36, Romans 6:16, 18, 22). It is the power to keep the law from a right motive from the heart (Romans 6:14-17).

Romans 6:14-For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Grace is power over sin to live a holy, righteous, and godly life.

The Apostle Paul is the author of 1 Thessalonians.  In 1 Thessalonians 2:10 Paul says “Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe”.

Paul says with God as his witness his behavior, lifestyle, and actions before God were holy, just and unblameable.  He wrote this under divine inspiration of the Holy Ghost.

Paul was not going around sinning every day in word, thought and deed.

Paul also stated in Acts 24:16-Herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offense toward God, and toward men.

Romans 7:16-If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

Romans 7:17-Now then it is no more I that do it but sin that dwelleth in me.

Paul is not denying any responsibility here.  He is acknowledging that as a person of their own free will continues to give themselves over to self gratification eventually that self gratification takes hold of them and holds them captive and they become a slave to it.

Romans 7:18-For I know that in me (that is in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.

Romans 7:19-For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

Romans 7:20-Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Romans 7:21-I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.

Although Paul acknowledges the law is good and should be obeyed he is describing the state of the unregenerate man using himself as an example before he was saved.  The unregenerate man has repeatedly given himself over to gratify himself (carnal mind) and is now a slave to his selfishness.  Often when unregenerate (unsaved) people see God’s holy law they will make an attempt to please God by self reformation and obeying the law outwardly.  This is the condition Paul is describing.

Romans 7:22-For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

Once again as an unregenerate Jew Paul had a high regard for God’s holy law.

Romans 7:23-But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Romans 7:24-O wretched man that I am!  Who shall deliver me from the body of this death.

Paul realizes despite his best efforts to please God by keeping the law he is still a slave of sin.

John 8:34-Whosoever commiteth sin is the servant of sin.

Matthew 6:24-No man can serve two masters:

Romans 6:16-Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death or of obedience unto righteousness.

If we are committing sin we are serving sin and not Jesus. We cannot serve two masters and regardless of what someone says they are serving the one they obey.

Romans 6:6-Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed that henceforth we should not serve sin.

Paul cries out for deliverance from the “body of this death” in Romans 7:24 but in Romans 6:6 he shows us the Lord Jesus provided this deliverance and providing freedom from sin.

Romans 7:25-I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.  So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

In verse 24 Paul asks who will deliver him and in verse 25 he gives the answer.  Jesus Christ the Savior from sinning (Matthew 1:21, John 1:29, Acts 3:26, Galatians 1:4, Titus 2:14, 1 John 3:5).

In the last part of verse 25 Paul summarizes the experience he has been describing in verses 5 and 7-24 before moving into the freedom and deliverance of a Spirit led, Spirit governed lifestyle in Romans 8.

Romans 8:1-THERE IS THEREFORE NOW NO CONDEMNATION TO THEM WHICH ARE IN CHRIST WHO WALK NOT AFTER THE FLESH BUT AFTER THE SPIRIT.

Romans 7 the Scourge of Sin Defended?