Confessions of a Log in My Eye? by John McGlone

Matt 7:1-5

Well here is my confession for the world to see.  A world that for the most part doesn’t understand the term nor apply it properly to their lives.  I have been in a wrestling match in the spirit for the last three years trying to figure out where the line is drawn for believers in relation to open air preaching; speech and behaviors.  The link below you can find what I think is a good defense of harsh words in the open air.  An excerpt from that blog is a standard I set for myself in regards to these important truths.  NOTE: If you are not preaching open air at all, you can’t even begin to judge these matters righteously.  See this blog about all men of God preaching..HERE.

Doubtful Disputes With Cursing Christians?

Setting a Standard of Holiness in Speech and Conduct

With that said, I have wrestled with a standard for which I would govern myself according to the Holy Ghost in my open air work.  So, whatever motivates another brother to preach and how he preaches, I give God glory and thanks the Gospel is preached.  For myself, I must come to a place where I am obeying the Holy Ghost and what He is teaching me in these matters.

Here are some standards I am laying out for myself:
1.  I will use words from the KJV Bible(preferred) in context and applicability.
2.  I will use words that are scientific or biblical in regards to sexual sins or otherwise.
3.  I will limit the use of slang, inflammatory, or non biblical words which may unnecessarily incite hearers.
4.  I will seek to use primarily biblical type parables vs. parables that play to the imaginations of sin.
5.  I will not apply my standard to other people but pray they seek the Holy Ghost for a standard for themselves and walk according to His direction if they have not already done so.
6.  I will seek to check my heart toward the lost, both before, during and after a preach.
7.  I will seek to do the Lord’s will in all things even if men don’t understand or approve.
8. I will seek to be flexible on words or behaviors for weaker brothers or sisters I am working with.  Rom 14

Do you see the red words, ” limit the”? Well, there is my confession that I changed that words, “limit the”, from the word “not”.  This happened after a period of not obeying the original standard of, “NOT”.    As I made my subtle change I wondered about it and told myself, “I’ve simply changed my mind.”  But, why you may ask?  Well, I wasn’t practicing the NOT standard I had put upon myself in the first place.   The Lord have convicted me to return to my original standard. That has been violated numerous times as I reflect back on it.  I have videos that have been posted using terms like; flogging the log, fudge packer, etc that I will practice not saying those types of things again.

Lastly, keep in mind that does not mean that I will not use bible words like; whore, dogs, pigs, bastards, etc. if I am quoting certain passages or concepts.  This would include calling someone out for looking like a whore, acting like a dog, etc. Synonymous words are something I have liberty in as well.  Well, this standard I have set for myself is a good standard to consider for yourselves add and subtract as you follow the Holy Ghost.

I am adding a point #8 which has come up a few times in working with groups of believers. I don’t want to stumble anyone, yet shouldn’t they apply the same standard to me and others that believe the way we do?   I will also add if it is just too much too bear that splitting off to ease the conscience of the others is an option as well.

Why critique another man’s ministry call him a heretic, gossip about him, and then try and influence people away from standing with the truth of things God hath said?  Ironically, most of these men and women do this without ever speaking to the object of their disdain, the open air preacher.   Isn’t that sowing discord among believers even if you don’t consider them a brother?   What if they are and your doubt is causing the problem in the first place?  Doesn’t God hate that?  Prov 6:16-19

Pro 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.


Just War Theory – Defended by James Webber


Introduction by John McGlone

    I am privileged to know a wonderful soldier of the Lord, James Webber only through the internet and some important interpersonal counsel he labored with me a few years ago.  I am thankful for the many decades of work he has labored for the lost and to edify the saints over many decades of his colorful life of open air ministry.  I have for a few years questioned my hyper pacifism that I held to for a season of about seven years.  I have labored to study this issue and though I am not in complete agreement with St. Augustine and his just war theory, James sure helps me understand some important points in his following dissertation.

I am a patriot and love my countrymen and country. Some background on me, I have a family that is steeped in past proud military traditions.  On my father’s side of the family; my father was a Marine for four years earning Staff Sgt before getting out after the Bay of Pigs fiasco.  My grandfather was a waist gunner in a B-24 stationed with the 8th Air Force in England during WWII.  He was shot down by Anti aircraft fire on Jan 7th, 1944.  Most of the crew bailed out except the tail and ball turret gunners, and my grandfather.  The SS gestapo shot and killed them as they exited the downed aircraft.  They were not known for taking POW’s who were injured in the fighting.  My great grandfather was an infantry man in WWI in the south of France in 1917.  He survived the war.  My great great grandfather was a Colonel in the CSA part of the Tennessee Volunteers killed at Rocky Top, TN.  My matriarchal side of  my family I only know of  a great uncle who has retired from the U.S. Coast Guard service as an Admiral.  I served 21 years in the U.S. Navy as a Boatswains Mate, Quartermaster, and Signalman retiring in 2001 as a Chief Quartermaster.  I served on five different warships, have four rows of medals, campaign ribbons, unit awards.  I spent upwards of 15 years stationed aboard ship, 12 of that actually either deployed overseas or underway training to go overseas.  So, needless to say, I was a patriot to the core. Sworn to defend the Constitution of the United States from enemies both foreign and domestic. 

I see many forces at work to try and dismantle our system of government; Communists, Muslim Sharia, Antifa, BLM, illegal immigration, homosexual agenda, political corruption to the nth degree, etc.  I believe that God has blessed us with such abundant resources and responsibility.  We should use that responsibility to go with His Word into all nations. We should care for the widow, and orphans, keeping ourselves unspotted from the world.  Jam 1:27   I spent 21 years in the U.S. Navy, defending our Constitution as a primary motive when I joined. It was an ideology that matured me into a man.
Here are past views I’ve held: SEMIPASSIVE   HYPER PASSIVE

Just War Theory Defended
by James Webber

I think all Christians should be Peaceful people but capable of Implementing retributions and Justice as needed.

{Note: Particular Scriptural verses or topics are not always balanced when they are written.}

God’s actions, in relationship to killing humans.
GOD= Father- {Son, Jesus} – Holy Spirit

Point #1 God is Not Always Passive

God drowns everything on earth, except Noahs ark. Genesis 19:7:22
God Killed people and destroyed cities. Genesis 19:12-26
God kills all the first-born of Egypt. Exodus 12:29
God drowned the entire Egyptian army. Exodus 14:27
God had 3000 religious men destroyed. Exodus 32:19-28
God consumed with fire an untold number of Israel.
Numbers 16:31-32
God killed Korah and His family. Numbers 16:35
God killed 250 of the leading men of Israel. Numbers 16:35
God killed many Amorites. Josh 10:11
God killed directly killed 50,070. Men 1 Samuel 6:19
God directly killed 70,000 Israelites. 2 Samuel 24:15
God directly killed 185,000 Assyrians. 2 Kings19:35
God directly killed Ananias and Saphira. Acts 5:1-11
God directly killed king Herod Agrippa. Acts 12:21-23
God directly kills one-third of all mankind.
Revelation 9:15-17
God throws all whose names are not written in the Book of Life into the Lake
of Fire. Revelation 20:11-15

Point #2 Gods Attitude on War and Killing Revealed Within the Scriptures.

DR. A. E. WILDER-SMITH, Professor of medicine holding three doctorate degrees, and author or co-author of over fifty publications: …we ought never dare to state that there is a different God in the Old Testament to the One revealed in the New, on the basis that the Old Testament reveals a God of judgment and the New Testament a God of love. Love and judgment are present in both Testaments. Man’s Origin, Man’s Destiny (1974), p. 179

Deuteronomy 7:2-3
and when the LORD your God shall deliver them before you, and you shall defeat them, then you shall utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them and show no favor to them. 3“Furthermore, you shall not intermarry with them; you shall not give your daughters to their sons, or shall you take their daughters for your sons.
Deuteronomy 7:9-10
“Know therefore that the LORD your God, He is God, the faithful God, who keeps His covenant and His loving kindness to a thousandth generation with those who love Him and keep His commandments; 10 but repays those who hate Him to their faces, to destroy them; He will not delay with him who
hates Him, He will repay him to his face.
Deuteronomy 7:24-26
“And He will deliver their kings into your hand so that you shall make their name perish from under heaven; no man will be able to stand before you until you have destroyed them. 25) “The graven images of their gods you are to burn with fire; you shall not covet the silver or the gold that is on them, nor take it for yourselves, lest you be snared by it, for it is an abomination to the LORD your God. 26) “And you shall not bring an abomination into your house, and like it come under the ban;
you shall utterly detest it and you shall utterly abhor it, for it is something banned.
Deuteronomy 20:13
“When the LORD your God gives it into your hand, you shall strike all the men in it with the edge of the sword.
Deuteronomy 20:17
“But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the LORD your God has commanded you,
Psalms 5:5
The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity.
Nahum 1:2
A jealous and avenging God is the LORD; the LORD is avenging and wrathful. The LORD takes vengeance on His adversaries, and He reserves wrath for His enemies.
Exodus 15:3
“The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is His name.
2 Corinthians 5:11
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Point#3 God is NOT a Pacifist

What we have shown so far is, God is not a PACIFIST. We also see the Bible
speaking using Warfare terminology.
If Jesus was against Just Wars and was truly a Pacifist by Nature, I am sure He would not have used Warfare terms to express Biblical truths.
Luke 14:31 31
“Or what king, when he sets out to meet another king in battle, will not first sit down and take counsel whether he is strong enough with ten thousand {men} to encounter the one coming against him with twenty thousand?
1 Corinthians 14:8
For if the bugle produces an indistinct sound, who will prepare himself for battle?
Luke 11:21-23
“When a strong {man,} fully armed, guards his own homestead, his possessions are undisturbed; 22) but when someone stronger than he attacks him and overpowers him, he takes away from him all his armor on which he had relied, and distributes his plunder. 23) “He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me, scatters.
Romans 13:12
The night is almost gone, and the day is at hand. Let us therefore lay aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
Ephesians 6:11
Put on the full armor of God, that you may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil: Breastplate, Shield of faith, Helmet of salvation, Sword of the Spirit
1 Corinthians 9:7
Who at any time serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard, and does not eat the fruit of it? Or who tends a flock and does not use the milk of the flock?
Philippians 2:25
But I thought it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother and fellow worker and fellow soldier, who is also your messenger and minister to my need;
2 Timothy 2:3
Suffer hardship with {me,} as a good soldier of Christ Jesus.
2 Timothy 2:3-4
Suffer hardship with {me,} as a good soldier of Christ Jesus. 4) No soldier in active service entangles himself in the affairs of everyday life, so that he may please the one who enlisted him as a soldier.
Philemon 1:2
and to Apphia our sister, and to Archippus our fellow soldier, and to the church in your house:
2 Corinthians 6:7
in the word of truth, in the power of God; by the weapons of righteousness for the right hand and the left,
Matthew 12:20
“A battered reed He will not break off, and a smoldering wick He will not put out, until He leads justice to victory.
1 Corinthians 15:54
But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, “Death is swallowed up in victory.
2 Corinthians 10:3
For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh,
Revelation 2:16
‘Repent therefore; or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of My mouth.
Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. And the dragon and his angels waged war,
Revelation 19:10-16
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said to me, “Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” 11) And I saw heaven opened; and behold, a white horse, and He who sat upon it {is} called Faithful and True; and in righteousness He judges and wages war. 12) And His eyes {are} a flame of fire, and upon His head {are} many diadems; and He has a name written {upon Him} which no one knows except Himself. 13) And {He is} clothed with a robe dipped in blood; and His name is called The Word of God. 14) And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white {and} clean, were following Him on white horses. 15) And from His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may smite the nations; and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.
16) And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”

Point #4  There Will Be No Peace

War will not always be with us. For now, to insure Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit
of happiness, war at times is necessary.
1 Corinthians 13:8-10
Love never fails; but if {there are gifts of} prophecy, they will be done away; if {there are} tongues, they will cease; if {there is} knowledge, it will be done away. 9) For we know in part, and we prophesy in part; 10) but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
Isaiah 2:4
And He will judge between the nations, and will render decisions for many peoples; and they will hammer their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, and never again will they learn war.
Revelations 21:1-5
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer {any} sea. 2) And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. 3) And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He shall dwell among them, andvthey shall be His people, and God Himself shall be among them, 4) and He shall wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there shall no longer be {any} death; there shall no longer be {any} mourning, or
crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.” 5) And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” (NAS)

Point #5 War Accepted
Yet, Jesus seems to accept war as a part of the world system Matthew 24:6,
and his followers who were soldiers were not condemned Acts 10.
Soldiers were recognized as some of the heros of the faith Hebrews:11:32-34.
Hebrews 11:32-34
And what more shall I say? For time will fail me if I tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets, 33) who by faith conquered kingdoms, performed {acts of} righteousness, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, 34) quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, from weakness were made strong, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight.

Point #6
Some say there is no evidence of a single Christian soldier in the Roman army
from the NT times until A.D. 170. But this can easily be explained, by realizing in order to become a soldier you had to pledge allegiance to their gods. In addition, Christians were being killed for their faith, And had no Nation, of their own. By the third and forth century things changed as a result of Augustine’s, Just War theory. Since then, War has been accepted by almost all Churches, till this very day. The book,”Christian Attitudes Toward War and Peace”, by Roland H. Bainton, pp. 95-98 spells out Augustine’s theory of just war.
1. A just war must be just as to its intent, which is to restore peace. Augustine wrote the following to Boniface: “Peace should be the object of your desire. War should be waged only as a necessity and waged only that through it God may deliver men from that necessity and preserve them in peace. For peace is not to be sought in order to kindle war, but war is to be waged in order to obtain peace. Therefore even in the course of war you should cherish the spirit of a peace maker.” –Augustine said every effort should be made to avoid war.
2. A just war must seek to vindicate justice. The following injustices would be motivation for war: –an attempt to destroy the state. –refusal to grant passage through the nation –failure to make amends for wrongs
3. A just war must be motivated by love. That is, the intent must be good. War is not waged because of hatred for the other side, but because love dictates that action be taken to stop evil. A just State is obligated to examine its motives. They must be pure.
4. A just war can only be waged by the duly constituted rulers. The scriptures do not allow the individual to take action, only the duly constituted authorities.
5. A just war must be conducted properly. There should be no wanton violence, profaning of temples, looting, massacres, or conflagrations. Vengeance, atrocities, and reprisals are excluded.
6. A just war must be conducted in a mournful mood. War is a serious thing, and it is undertaken with reluctance and sorrow, not glee, as if it were fun. War should not be entered with joy and singing and thanksgiving.
Jeremiah 48:10
“Cursed be the one who does the LORD’S work negligently, and cursed be the one who restrains his sword from blood.

Point #7 But, Jesus Said..
Matthew 5:39
“But I say to you, do not resist him who is evil; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Matthew 5:44
“But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you
The context of these verses primarily, has to do with the attitude and actions of the Saints, towards the ones that are the enemies of God, that are Persecuting the Saints for their Faith. Theses verses are not dealing with National Security Issues, Police Actions,
or National War.

Point # 8 Governmental Responsibility
Deals with the responsibility of Christians to their Government, and the
honoring of it, as a viable institution.
Matthew 22:21
They said to Him, “Caesar’s.” Then He said to them, “Then render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God the things that are God’s.”
Romans 13:1-7
Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2) Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3) For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; 4) for it is a minister of God to you for good.
But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. 5) Wherefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of wrath, but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for {rulers} are servants of God, devoting themselves to this very thing. 7) Render to all what is due them: tax to whom tax {is due;} custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.
Acts 28:19
“But when the Jews objected, I was forced to appeal to Caesar; not that I had any accusation
against my nation.
In Philippians 3:20 Paul says, “But our citizenship is in heaven.” It appears
Paul was aware that His citizenship was in heaven, yet He works within the
Worldly system.
Acts 27:23-24
“For this very night an angel of the God to whom I belong and whom I serve stood before me, 24) saying, ‘Do not be afraid, Paul; you must stand before Caesar; and behold, God has granted you all those who are sailing with you.’
Titus 3:1
Remind them to be subject to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good deed,
1 Peter 2:13
Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority,
Proverbs 8:13-15
“The fear of the LORD is to hate evil; pride and arrogance and the evil way, and the perverted mouth, I hate. 14) “Counsel is mine and sound wisdom; I am understanding, power is mine. 15) “By me kings reign, and rulers decree justice.
Daniel 2:21
“And it is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings; He gives wisdom to wise men, and knowledge to men of understanding.
John 19:11
Jesus answered  “You would have no authority over Me, unless it had been given you from above; for this reason he who delivered Me up to you has {the} greater sin.”
Revelation 1:5
and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the first-born of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us, and released us from our sins by His blood,
1 Timothy 2:1-2
First of all, then, I urge that entreaties {and} prayers, petitions {and} thanksgivings, be made on behalf of all men, 2) for kings and all who are in authority, in order that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and dignity.
Point #9
Israel was to be an example of a Godly government.
Old Covenant VS. New Covenant Question.
NOTE: Exodus 20:13
Has been wrongly translated as “kill” kjv, rather than murder.
The text correctly reads “YOU SHALL NOT MURDER.” Murder is a different word and meaning than to kill. Thou shalt not kill. ‘Killing’ is not what is prohibited, otherwise the judicial infliction of capital punishment, as well as the slaughter of an enemy in defensive war, would be unlawful-in which light these were certainly not regarded by the Israelites in the time of Moses (Exodus 21:14; Deuteronomy 19:11; 31:9). [Lo’ tirtsaach, Thou shalt not commit murder. The verb signifies to slay with premeditation and malice, and is properly rendered by the Septuagint: ou foneuseis.]
from Jamieson, Fausset, and Brown Commentary,
NOTE: Exodus 22:2
“If a thief is caught breaking in and is struck so that he dies, the defender is not guilty of bloodshed;” Moreover, (3) God gave mankind permission as a lawful society, to “kill,” or destroy those guilty of capital offenses. We call this today “capital punishment.” We read in,
Genesis 9:6
“Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.”
The divinely sanction war is important to understand. For later on, God organized and engaged the entire nation of Israel into His army to kill all God’s enemies that He had labeled for destruction. Make no mistake God sanctioned the killing of human life by warfare. Again we read:
Josh 10:40
“So Joshua subdued the whole region, including the hill country, the Negev, the western foothills and the mountain slopes, together with all their kings. He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded.” (NIV)
Point #10
Some say: We are all children of God, therefore Killing a fellow child of God has to be wrong. Wrong, We are not all children of God, you are either a child of God or a child of the devil.
I John 3:10
By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother.
Romans 9:20-23
On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, “Why did you make me like this,” will it? 21) Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use, and another for common use? 22) What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? 23) And {He did so} in order that He might make
known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory,
Acts 13:10
and said, “You who are full of all deceit and fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease to make crooked the straight ways of the Lord?
John 8:44
“You are of {your} father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own {nature;} for he is a liar, and the father of lies.
Matthew 13:38
and the field is the world; and {as for} the good seed, these are the sons of the kingdom; and the tares are the sons of the evil {one;}
Galatians 6:3
For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself.

Point #11
Some say: “Jesus would never Go to War!”
Wrong!
John 2:15
So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.
Matthew: 10:34
“Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. If war is inherently evil, why are soldiers not told so in the New Testament?
• John the Baptist, went into all the country around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins.
Luke 3:14  Some soldiers were questioning him, saying, “And what about us, what shall we do?” And he said to them, “Do not take money from anyone by force, or accuse anyone falsely, and be content with your wages.”
• In Matthew 8 why did Christ commend the faith of a Centurion but did not call on him to abandon his profession? He told the woman caught in adultery to go and sin no more.
• Why did Paul avail himself of military protection if it is always wrong to kill? Wasn’t the protection predicated upon the fact that the soldiers would kill those who might try to kill Paul?
• Why is nothing said about Cornelius leaving his profession as Centurion in Acts 10?

Point 12 Patriotism
In discussing Patriotism it is difficult because there are a multitude of possible application, so I will not deal with the obvious mis applications. Any time we place something above God it is wrong whether Patriotism, Golf, TV, Money and so on.
Romans 14:1-2
Now accept the one who is weak in faith, {but} not for {the purpose of} passing judgment on his opinions. 2) One man has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables {only.}
• If you eat Vegetable only you are the weaker Brother.
• If you eat Vegetable and Meat you are the Stronger Brother.
• If you worship God on one day a week you are the weaker Brother.
• If you worship God everyday you are the Stronger Brother.
You see the ones that are limited in their Freedom are consider the weaker
Brothers, and the ones that are able to live in Freedom are the Stronger
Brothers.  The person that can’t be Patriotic is the weaker Brother where as the one that is able to be a good Christian and be Patriotic is the Stronger Brother.
If in fact you see God first and Country second Romans 13, and you attempt to Honor Romans 13
as directed, and Serve your Country, that position is completely in line with our Freedom and the Scriptural examples. Some say, look at the evils in your Country, how can you Serve a country like that, and be Patriotic to it? God looks at His Church and see Evil, and still Loves and Serves it, and is faithful to it. A married Man may see evils within His wife, yet He is still commanded to Love Her. Most Parents Love their
Children even when they do Evil. When People pledge allegiance to the flag, that does not mean they do not have built in restrictions within that allegiance.
Even in a Church, when one pledges allegiance to it, by way of membership, that does not mean, the commitment does not have limits.

IN CONCLUSION:
In Point #1, Jesus is No Pacifist, to the point He will not kill humans or direct other humans to kill humans, In War and otherwise.
In Point #2, We see that The Lord Jesus has always been a warrior throughout history.
In Point #3, We see God uses the opposite of Pacifistic terminology within the Scriptures.
In Point #4, We see Peace will come, just not yet.
In Point #5, Jesus seems to accept war as a part of the world system.
In Point #6, We see most Christians from all faiths have almost always seen War as a tragic necessity at times.
In Point #7, We see, as Christians in rightly dividing the Word of God, We need to make a distinction between individual responsibility’s before God and National responsibility’s before God.
In Point #8, Christian are responsible to their Government.
In Point #9, Israel a Godly example of a Government.
In Point #10, We are not all Children of God.
In Point #11, Jesus came with a sword.
In Point #12, Christian Patriotism can be an indication of one that is stronger in the faith.
True Pacifism, is Anti Self-protection, Anti Self-defense, and Anti John 15:13 “Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends.” Romans 12:18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men.

Nashville New Years Week of Festivals

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UPDATE FOR NASHVILLE NYE WEEK PREACH, PLEASE READ:
If you’d like to join us give us a pm or call to confirm the meet, thanks.

1. EXPECT COLD TEMPS AND WINDS, BRING LAYERS OF CLOTHING, GLOVES, AND HATS SUITABLE. SAFETY GLASSES FOR DAY AND NIGHT, HAND/FOOT WARMERS, HEARING PROTECTION, WATERS, GRANOLA BARS.
2. WE EXPECT TO EAT TWO MEALS PER DAY, BREAKFAST AND A MEAL AFTER THE OUTREACH. PLEASE BRING CASH TO CARE FOR YOU NEEDS.
3. WE WILL NOT BE STOPPING TO BUY GEAR ON THE WAY INTO OR BACK FROM OUTREACHES.
4.WE ENCOURAGE DOCTRINAL SHARPENING WHILE WE ARE IN FELLOWSHIP. HOWEVER, WE EXPECT EVERYONE TO BE HOLY AND SELF CONTROLLED IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS. NO DOCTRINAL DISPUTES ALLOWED IN THE STREETS.
5. WE NEED A VOLUNTEER WHO CAN BRING AND CARRY A FIRST AID KIT ALL WEEK. IF YOU HAVE EMT EXPERIENCE A PLUS!

PLEASE CHECK YOUR SCHEDULES AND ARRIVAL/DEPARTURE TIMES INTO TOWN WITH OUR PLANNED PREACHING SCHEDULE. WE NEED YOU TO COORDINATE YOURSELVES TO THAT SCHEDULE. PLEASE CONTACT US IF YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES/ISSUES. THANKS,GOD BLESS, WE LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING WITH YOU.

Attending Preachers
Josh G.
John McGlone
Daniel McGlone
Jason Crowley
Marvin Heimann
Josh Heiman
Jeff Mullen
Adam Bishop+ son
Daniel Maguire
David Sain
Timothy Brown + son?
Bill Preacher [possible]
Kenneth Winslow [possible]

SCHEDULE [EXPECT TO LV MARVIN’S 1 HOUR PRIOR TO OUTREACH START TIME DAILY, DON’T BE LATE. SOLDIERS ARE TIMELY FOR BATTLES]

Dec.26th Broadway Preach 3-9PM
Dec.27th Predators Hockey Brimstone Downtown 3-9PM
Dec.28 Return to KY for a time of rest and fellowship, visitation with families coming into KY
Thurs, Dec.29th Battle of the Bands Downtown 3-9pm
Friday, Dec.30th 11:00 am – ACC – SEC Pep Rally
1130 – 2:00 pm Stadium Tailgate Party–

Sat, Dec.31st New Years Eve Bash 4pm – 11 pm Centennial Park

Sun, Jan 1st, 2017 10am – 2pm Titans vs Texans football
contact Timothy Brown

1. A group of 6 will stay at Marvin’s house 6. Please contact him directly for his phone number and address.

2. We need a volunteer to stay at a hotel in White House who is willing to split the cost, total for them will be $38 for two nights, checking in on Thursday, free wifi, and continental breakfast.
We have arranged for 4 preachers on two king beds in one room for the two nights. It’s about 20 min from Marvin’s. Josh G., Daniel McGlone, myself, and the volunteer. We will stay there and meet at Marvin’s daily to travel into Nashville for the outreaches.

All of us heading back up to our home in KY on Saturday night about 11:30 pm. Many have family members wives/children that will be staying during the outreach with my wife/children/company until our return. Our home will be packed but we will manage nicely as the Lord enables.

We will have a big breakfast Sun morning, fellowship starts at 11am, hymns, prayer, readings, testimonies, and we will be doing a mock Matt 18 skit that we have been practicing for the edification of the saints.

Also, there will be a Titan’s game on Sunday outreach should start at 10:30 am latest near the ticket gates on the bridge side. There are those that may want to attend this instead of returning to KY with us for fellowship. Contact Timothy Brown if you would like to work that event with him.

Thank you and may God bless you.

Sincerely,

John McGlone
Founder, Jesus Preacher Ministries
www.JesusPreacher.com

 

 

Xmas Idolatry?

 

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Luke 2:1-21 And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered.2 This census first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria.3 So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city. 4 Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, to the city of David, which is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and lineage of David, 5 to be registered with Mary, his betrothed wife, who was with child. 6 So it was, that while they were there, the days were completed for her to be delivered. 7 And she brought forth her firstborn Son, and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. 8 Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. 9 And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. 10 Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. 11 For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. 12 And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger.” 13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying: 14 “Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!” 15 So it was, when the angels had gone away from them into heaven, that the shepherds said to one another, “Let us now go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has come to pass, which the Lord has made known to us.” 16 And they came with haste and found Mary and Joseph, and the Babe lying in a manger. 17 Now when they had seen Him, they made widely known the saying which was told them concerning this Child. 18 And all those who heard it marveled at those things which were told them by the shepherds. 19 But Mary kept all these things and pondered them in her heart. 20 Then the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told them. 21 And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called JESUS, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.

 

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Jer 10:3-5 For the customs of the peoples are futile; For one cuts a tree from the forest, The work of the hands of the workman, with the ax. 4 They decorate it with silver and gold; They fasten it with nails and hammers So that it will not topple. 5 They are upright, like a palm tree, And they cannot speak; They must be carried, Because they cannot go by themselves. Do not be afraid of them, For they cannot do evil, Nor can they do any good.”

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In Jeremiah, we see the prophet speaking of the idolatry of the nation of Israel that had fashioned gods to worship out of trees.  Many in our day will use this passage to call modern ‘Christmas’ trees to be these same trees, thus making that which is not idolatry, sin to other believers.  Whether the Christian community is talking about; Christmas, Easter, or birthdays we can all agree that the pagans have influence in these things.  But, can we be like Paul on Mars Hill?  Did Paul sin by using that place philosophers to talk to them about the Unknown God and relate it to their hearts and minds?

Act 17:22-27 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars’ hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. 23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. 24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; 25 Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; 26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; 27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

Can a Jesus believer today celebrate the season of remembrance of Jesus’ birth?  The Bible specifically tells us to celebrate the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.  So, we are not specifically commanded to observe His birth.  But, that could be an argument from silence and if Paul became all things to all men that he might see some saved, can we?   Now, I must give credit where it is due because Br. Ruben Israel pointed out some really great things about why this passage can’t be used this way.  I am cutting and pasting most of what he said, with a few side observations.

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Br. Ruben with palm trees in background, SoCal

 Israel Ruben Does Jeremiah chapter 10 really speak against Christmas trees?

The verses commonly used is found in Jeremiah 10:3-5;
“For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree…. is it in them to do good”

I question that verse for several reasons, but let me start off with I do NOT display a Christmas tree in my house and using this verse is a weak argument.

The text is talking about trees being cut, with the work of workmen and the axe. Then these trees are decked with silver and gold, fasten by nails and will not move. Upright like a palm tree but do not speak and we should not be afraid of them.

Here are my reasons I believe this text is NOT speaking of what we call a ‘Christmas tree’ today.

1. Christmas was not ever heard of when Jeremiah spoke this [Jeremiah was
born 650 BC]

2.  Christmas tree does NOT resemble a ‘palm tree’

3.   I do not know anyone who is ‘afraid’ of a Christmas trees, most people get happy when they see a Christmas tree.

4.  I have never heard of anyone claiming a Christmas tree talks

However there is a tree that has ALL the above and no one ever brings up.

That would be a ‘totem pole’

These were tress cut by workmen, decked with silver and gold, fasten by nails, with legs but not moving, upright like a palm tree, gives the impression they could speak and can appear scary if you walked up to one.

They are weird looking idols.

Could it be that Jeremiah 10 is speaking of ‘totem poles’ and NOT ‘Christmas trees’ and that is ‘the way of the heathen’ that loved idols?

Face it, Christmas trees are not idols, I’ve never seen anyone bow and pray to them. I do not recall a Christmas tree answering prayers…..however…..a ‘totem pole’ is an idol with legs, eyes, mouths and colors. They are made to be worshipped and those heathen think if you bow to them, you might get a stroke of good luck.

This is just my opinion, as you may have another but I personally question using that Jeremiah 10 when coupled with a Christmas tree. And IF you subscribe that Jeremiah 10 is speaking of a Christmas tree, my question would be. IF someone puts up an artificial Christmas tree would that be an idol or does it need to be a spruce, pine, or fir tree?

-Uncle Ruben

Wondering why the saints of God wouldn’t celebrate Jesus’ birth as the angels did proclaiming good news of the Messiah’s birth. Of course I will grant you certain things:  1. We’re not sure the day  2.  We should not worship dumb idols like; totem asheroth poles,  silver or gold trees, yule logs, or other pagan devices  3.   We should be so thankful He came born of a virgin, Holy Ghost conceived to die for our sin.  4. We should use this season to promote the Gospel and lift Jesus Christ up that He may draw all men unto Himself, amen. 
 

Happy Birthday Jesus!

 

 

 

Is God Blessing or Cursing America?

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Celebrating the Blessing or Cursing of God

– July 4th, 2016

2 Chron 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

During this patriotic season and celebration of the Independence of America, I am torn and conflicted in many ways.  I have my experiences, my family’s emigration, heritage and military service to it, our people, our ‘freedoms’ enjoyed by no other nation, our civil and Constitutional foundation and framework, the blood and lives of my countrymen shed and laid down for it, the traditions of our fathers, etc all come to a head and in conflict against concepts I see in the Bible.  America needs to become dependent on God once again.

What is the complete concept that is expressed in the previous passage from 1 Chr 7?  It is God speaking to Solomon, the wisest man/leader the world has ever seen about the condition of God’s land and people and what God would do in response the the people’s idolatry and if they fail to repent of their wickedness.  This nation that we live in has been greatly blessed by the Creator of the Universe because we have honored Him in the past with obedience to His law and statutes as a people.

2 Chr 7:12-22 And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice. 13 If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people; 14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. 15 Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.
16 For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually. 17 And as for thee, if thou wilt walk before me, as David thy father walked, and do according to all that I have commanded thee, and shalt observe my statutes and my judgments; 18 Then will I stablish the throne of thy kingdom, according as I have covenanted with David thy father, saying, There shall not fail thee a man to be ruler in Israel. 19 But if ye turn away, and forsake my statutes and my commandments, which I have set before you, and shall go and serve other gods, and worship them; 20 Then will I pluck them up by the roots out of my land which I have given them; and this house, which I have sanctified for my name, will I cast out of my sight, and will make it to be a proverb and a byword among all nations. 21 And this house, which is high, shall be an astonishment to every one that passeth by it; so that he shall say, Why hath the LORD done thus unto this land, and unto this house? 22 And it shall be answered, Because they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, which brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, and laid hold on other gods, and worshipped them, and served them: therefore hath he brought all this evil upon them.

This word evil doesn’t just mean moral impurity, it also means destruction.  We know that God is morally perfect and pure so this certainly means of God’s willingness to bring destruction upon the people and the land with great consequences.  This is what is currently happening to America.  Our land which has been defiled with abortion, sexual deviations like homosexuality, bestiality, and pedophlia, divorce, pornography, fornication, corrupt politics, greed, and false teachers.  This has led us into not a backsliding from the faith once delivered to the saints, but is a moral and religious freefall where we see ‘churches’ marching in gay pride parades, approving, and promoting such wickedness even to the children where no standard of conduct is imposed upon anyone because ‘Christians’ have been lied to and convinced that judgment is not allowed in the aforesaid faith.  We can’t even examine or judge ourselves, according to them, though the Bible clearly teaches that we should.  See webpage here on CHRISTIAN JUDGMENT.

Isa 13:9-13 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. 10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. 11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible. 12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir. 13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

Pro 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

When will our people learn that God is not fooled by our theologies, our pastors, our desire for secret sin, which are an abomination to Him?  We have churches filled on every corner, yet we can’t muster a squad of godly men in a city like Nashville, Louisville or even LA to carry the trumpet and banners of the Lord to the enemies of God.  We have churches filled with people who have made up a god for themselves.  His name is jesus christ.  He is another christ, another gospel which the Bible clearly warns against.

May God stay His Hand of Judgment, If my people will…

Interview with Kevin Collier Podcast

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I was thankful to be invited to the Confronting the Devil Podcast with Kevin Collier.  His excitement about the open air ministry was great and gives me hope for the body of believers who have been fearful or ignorant of how to preach to the lost for the glory of Jesus Christ.

Here is Vol 1 of that podcast, please like, comment, and share with your friends, family, churches, and enemies!  Thank you.

 

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Progressive Sanctification or Progressive Maturation?

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This teaching by Mike Bradley is both timely and necessary in this dark age in which we find ourselves.  I have found Mike’s insights and teaching style to be edifying and insightful by the Holy Ghost and God’s Word.   Enjoy this great teaching from a small home family fellowship in Palawan, Republic of the Philippines.

Is Progressive Sanctification True?

By Mike Bradley

This morning’s home church went well. I am so impressed, seeing both my wife and teenage daughter taking notes and with their bible open! Praise the Lord! It’s such a joy to see this kind of attentiveness to the things of God and that we have a shared vision in our home to walk in obedience and holiness before the Lord.

Today’s topic was three-part… “A scriptural response to the Augustinian error of ‘Original Sin’, “Do Genuine Believers Crucify The Flesh Daily?” and “A Scriptural Response to the Error of ‘Progressive Sanctification’.” These three false beliefs have contributed to many professing believers thinking they can continue in sin and still be saved when in fact, they may have never repented from sin to begin with, and thus, were never saved at all.

Any good Christian husband should both teach and demonstrate to his family how to obey God and walk in holiness, so these three false beliefs need to be preemptively dismantled so as to not be obstacles to obedience. But first, let’s define some terms. What is the ‘flesh’? The ‘flesh’ is another term for the acquired (not inherited) ‘sinful nature’ that characterizes all unrepentant, spiritually unregenerate sinners.

Sinful Nature/ Original Sin

Who is willing to contradict God when He describes our pre-born state as….

“I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvelous are thy works…” (Psalm 139:14 KJV)

We are born with a nature that is worthy of praising God for, a good nature, not an evil nature. It is this good nature which became corrupted when we chose to sin. Even in the New Testament, under the inspiration of the Spirit, the apostle Paul describes mankind as….

(1Co 11:7 KJV) ….the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man.

The Bible says in….

(Isa 53:6) All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

We have not been forced by Adam to sin, nor is God responsible for our sinful nature, but we have ‘turned every one to his own way’. Sin is something we have done, not Adam. We are responsible for our choice to sin. Not Adam. Not God. Not Satan. You.

The bible says….

(Ecc 7:29 ESV) See, this alone I found, that God made man upright, but they have sought out many schemes.

Neither Adam nor God can be blamed for men sinning, because it is men themselves who seek out ‘many schemes’, implying sinful acts.

We have brought our sinful nature upon ourselves due to our own choice to disobey God at some time in the past, and we have been in need of deliverance, of salvation, or spiritual rescue from the wrath of God and from sin itself ever since the first time we disobeyed God.

So, we see that our nature was created by God and that it was good. We see that the flesh is a sinful nature that is acquired after our birth which predisposes a person toward rebellion. And rebellion is when we choose to sin, which leads to spiritual death.

(Rom 6:23 KJV) For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Up to this point I’ve used the terms ‘flesh’ as synonymous with a ‘sinful nature’. There are many who believe we have a sinful nature that is inherited (the Augustinian error), while others believe we don’t have a sinful nature at all (sinners in denial). But we know there is a sinful nature that is acquired, not inherited. For example…. (caps mine for emphasis)…

(Eph 2:3 KJV) among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and WERE BY NATURE children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.

And we see the antithesis of the sinful nature in the ‘divine nature’ that only spiritually regenerate souls have. For example….

(2Peter 1:4 ESV) by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, so that through them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world because of sinful desire.

To be a partaker of the ‘divine nature’ is what a genuinely saved person enjoys, the freedom from the influence of a sinful desire.

(Jas 3:9 KJV) Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

The word “similitude’ means ‘likeness’. So, far removed from the time of Adam, we see that God still creates us in His likeness. Since God is not sinful, it follows that contrary to Calvinists led by the 4th century heretic Augustine, God does not create us as sinful beings.

Notably, all three verses use the same Greek word for “nature”, which is

φύσις
phusis
‘foosis’

This word for ‘nature’ has a primary meaning of ‘lineal descent’, but is also used figuratively to mean a ‘disposition’. The latter meaning is preferred here.

Since we do not inherit a divine nature through physical inheritance, it follows that we also do not inherit sin through physical inheritance.

Now people will sometimes say, “oh, but the bible says we were brought forth in sin!”….No, it doesn’t.

(Psa 51:5) Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Psalm 51:5 is clearly saying that David was conceived in sin, not that he was born sinful.

The bible also says….

(Psa 53:3 KJV) Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Gone back? From what? If they became altogether filthy, what were they before?

The bible say’s man’s heart is evil from his youth (not his birth). Caps mine for emphasis.

(Gen 8:21) And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man’s sake; for the imagination of man’s heart is evil FROM HIS YOUTH; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

(Jer 22:21 KJV) I spake unto thee in thy prosperity; but thou saidst, I will not hear. This hath been thy manner FROM THY YOUTH, that thou obeyedst not my voice.

(Jer 32:30 KJV) For the children of Israel and the children of Judah have only done evil before me FROM THEIR YOUTH: for the children of Israel have only provoked me to anger with the work of their hands, saith the LORD.

Our ‘youth’ is not when we were born. It’s the time after we are born. It’s a time when we first disobeyed God and felt shame or guilt for it. A baby doesn’t have that capacity. Children do not acquire a sinful nature until they comprehend accountability for their actions.

Perhaps I will go into more detail on additional refutations of the false doctrine of “original sin” in the future, but for now, we will return to the main point of the study.

WHY WOULD GENUINE BELIEVERS CRUCIFY THE FLESH?

Crucifying the flesh was supposed to have already happened.

(Gal 5:24 KJV) And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

‘Have crucified’….past tense. It already happened…or should have happened. And how can you be Christ’s if you repeatedly crucify the flesh? The Spirit-inspired word says of the believer…

(Rom 6:14 KJV) For sin shall not have dominion over you….

If you’re repeatedly crucifying the flesh, then you’re still under the dominion of sin. Obviously, some have been delivered from the power of darkness…Others have not.

(Col 1:13 KJV) Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son

If Jesus has delivered you from the power of darkness, why are you still crucifying the flesh daily? According to the bible, our ‘old self’ was crucified a long time ago.

(Rom 6:6 KJV) We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.

Anyone who claims to have died with Christ should also be declaring they are set free from sin, because that is one of the reasons Jesus died on the cross.

(Rom 6:7 KJV) For one who has died has been set free from sin.

Again, past tense. The believer ‘has been’ set free from sin It does not repeatedly happen because it was supposed to have already happened. If you’re still crucifying the flesh, then it was never killed. Thus, you haven’t been set free from sin.

The bible says….

(Rom 8:6 KJV) “For to be carnally minded is death.” And…

(Rom 8:13 KJV) For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

If you’re crucifying the flesh daily, it’s apparent that you’re in the flesh daily, and thus, still spiritually dead. How can you claim to be Christ’s if you’re spiritually dead every day? p

According to the author of Hebrews, your sins were purged already.

(Heb 1:3 ESV) Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

If your sins have been purged already, why are you still crucifying them as if you still have them?

Speaking to the Corinthian believers, apostle Paul says….

(1 Corinthians 6:11) And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

They already were sanctified. It already happened.

This is the predicament that believers in the modern ‘churchy’ church are in. They claim to ‘crucify the flesh’ daily, but are unaware that their sins should have been purged in a one-time occurrence when they first repented…..if they repented. Their criteria for being ‘Christ’s’ is not the word of God in its entirety, but ‘faith alone’. The problem is, the word of God demands more than just ‘faith alone’.

What must a professing ‘Christian’ who has either not repented, is disobedient and otherwise still walking in sin do? Under the inspiration of the Spirit, the apostle Paul says…

(Rom 13:12 KJV) The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light.

(Rom 13:13 KJV) Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy.

(Rom 13:14 KJV) But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires.

The bible is teaching that to mortify the deeds of the flesh, we must ‘walk properly’. What is ‘walking properly’? To walk as Jesus walked. In obedience. An unregenerate, unsaved person doesn’t walk as Jesus walked, but a repentant, saved from sin and born again believer does.

The bible here also says to ‘Put on’ the Lord Jesus Christ ‘ and ‘make no provision for the flesh, to gratify its desires’. In other words, stop sinning.

(1Jn 1:5 KJV) This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
Jesus said…
(Joh 8:12 KJV) ….”I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

If you repent from sin (turn away from sin), follow Jesus (which is to obey Him) and abide in Him with an enduring faith, your way will be lighted. You will not stumble because you will see where you’re going. If your eyes are open, and you’re spiritually born again, you’ll see the kingdom of God and will by the grace of God, be able to avoid sin and ultimately, overcome the world.

So instead of sinning daily and then crucifying the flesh daily, repent from sin and follow Jesus. If you do this, you won’t have to make excuses like ‘God is still working on me’ or ‘I just need to crucify the flesh daily!’.
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AGAINST PROGRESSIVE SANCTIFICATION

I then prepared my family to respond to the error of ‘progressive sanctification’ with the word of God. Progressive sanctification is the belief that one’s cleansing of sins is an ongoing work that happens as one repeatedly sins, confesses and (supposedly) repents over and over. Finally, at some time in the future (never soon) a breakthrough is supposed to happen and they finally become ‘sanctified’ or in some cases, they believe God finishes the work after they die. This is completely against what the bible teaches.

Jesus died to save us from sin itself. We died with Him through faith and we were raised with Him as well, in newness and purity in heart, having been purged of sins and sanctified. To believe that our sanctification is incomplete at the time we first believe on Jesus implies that His work on the cross was insufficient. God forbid such a belief! But what does the bible say?

(Act 20:32) And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among ALL OF THEM WHICH ARE SANCTIFIED.

“All them which are sanctified” are genuine believers, sanctified in the present tense. They are sanctified in their nature. It’s already happened.

(Act 26:18 KJV) To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Jesus is speaking here, explaining to Paul the reason for sending him to the Gentile people (the non-Jewish nations), clearly indicating that it is faith in Jesus that sanctifies a person, not a life-long process of repeatedly sinning, confessing and repenting….sinning, confessing and repenting etc etc.

(1 Cor 1:2 KJV) Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that ARE SANCTIFIED in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

There are some at Corinth who were not sanctified, as evidenced by Paul’s correcting the Corinthians of sexual immorality, false tongues and other spiritual abuses going on in that church. And there were some who “ARE” sanctified.

(1 Cor 6:11 KJV) And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye ARE SANCTIFIED, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Again, some WERE unsanctified, still doing the kingdom prohibiting sins mentioned in 1 Cor 6:9-10, but at the time Paul was penning this letter, they “ARE” sanctified, present tense. Their present state as some who are genuine believers is a state of being sanctified already.

(Heb 2:11 KJV) For both he that sanctifieth and they who ARE SANCTIFIED are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

There is Jesus who sanctifies, and there are those ‘brethren’, genuine believers, who “ARE SANCTIFIED”, present tense.

(Heb 10:10 KJV) By the which will we ARE SANCTIFIED through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Again, present tense, indicating their present state.

(Heb 10:14 KJV) For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that ARE SANCTIFIED.

Again, present tense, indicating one’s present condition of being in a sanctified state.

(Jude 1:1 KJV) Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that ARE SANCTIFIED by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:

The ‘called’ are also the sanctified, present tense, indicating their present sanctified state. For them, it’s already happened. There is no further sanctification. They’ve already believed in Jesus’ work on the cross, which through their faith evidenced by deeds worthy of repentance, sanctifies them.

Thanks for making it this far, if you did. May the grace of God be with you.

(Tit 2:11) For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,
(Tit 2:12) training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age,

For those who know they are unsaved, unsanctified and still a slave to sin and on the way to hell fire, I would encourage you to repent from all sin. If you’re sincere, you will, and you’ll be blessed for it. And cry out to Jesus, beg Him to forgive you. If you’re sincere, He will. Then, know Jesus by following Him in an enduring, obedient faith.

Closing Thoughts by Br. John McGlone

In reading Mike’s teaching about the false concept of ‘progressive’ sanctification, what we are really trying to understand is progressive maturation.  With the thought of maturation in place. my next thought is what about progressive reprobation?

What is Progressive Maturation?

Progressive maturation comes with the study of God’s Word, sincerely seeking to live holy, rejecting bad doctrines, good/bad spiritual experiences, etc.  As we grow in the grace and knowledge of God’s will for our life we adjust our thinking and behaviors based upon our personal convictions that the Holy Ghost gives us personally.

Some examples of progressive maturation in my own life are: 1. stopping smoking about a week after I became a believer.  When I was convicted about this I was doing a Bible study while puffing on a cigarette.   2.  Another is speeding about 5 mph over the limit as my practice for almost 20 years as a Christian.  A brother mentioned to me why wouldn’t I obey that ordinance of man, and the Holy Ghost convicted me.  I have not been perfect in this but every time I catch myself I bring my speed back in line with the posted limit.  I don’t condemn others about this, but will openly discuss my convictions.  3.  My bad thinking that, “…love covers a multitude of sin.” meant that I could ignore what I believe is sin in another brother’s life.  I matured and realized that I must deal with those kind of uncomfortable situations and that if the person repents then that love to warn them has covered the sin.  Ignoring sin in our life or anyone else’s is to allow and bring greater destruction in the person’s life.

What is Progressive Reprobation?

This is a very important concept that I hope to do a fuller teaching later, Lord willing. Every converted, born again of the Holy Spirit believer on the planet are under what I term ‘probation’.  What I mean by that is that we were former criminals(sinners), that have come to the court of the Ancient of Days in our spirit, made a confession of our crimes, and asked to be forgiven, and then trusted the Lamb of God to wash us clean.  He then probated or set aside our record of crimes by passing over them through the propitiation of the blood of Jesus Christ.  This began our faith walk.  Now, while we journey down this narrow and difficult path which leads to life we begin to do our former criminal activity, we grieve the Mediator and the Holy Ghost by which we had been saved from our sins.  As they distance themselves from our unholiness, they are still desiring to bring conviction of the leaven that has begun to permeate our life.  Sin brings forth death!

Interpreting Holy Writ – Wesley Quadrilateral

by Brother Jed Smock

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An often repeated maxim in Christian circles is, “Where the Scriptures speak, we speak.  Where the Scriptures are silent we are silent.”

I do not think anyone truly keeps this saying.  It is not practical.  All men speak beyond the scriptures. However, many refuse to admit to it.  I suggest a better aphorism for theological reflection, which has become known as the Wesley Quadrilateral: The core of the Christian doctrine and faith is revealed in Scripture; but our faith is also illumined by tradition, quickened in personal experience of the Holy Spirit, and confirmed by reason. There are paradoxes in scripture that cannot be answered without the use of tradition, experience and reason; all Christians employ them to some extent, whether or not they admit it.

A child or a new Christian should have a strong foundation of scripture study nurtured by parents, pastors and fellow believers.  Being a part of a church community is vital! Church history and tradition as revealed through the fathers of the church and the creeds are valuable sources for theological reflection. Regrettably, most Christians are woefully ignorant of the traditions of our fathers established by the long history of Christianity as expressed in different nations and cultures.

The Holy Spirit has spoken through church councils and individuals with prophetic gifts throughout history.  He continues to speak today through the experiences of men vivified through the third person of the Trinity.  One should not ignore the mystical element of our union with Christ, who communicates through and to each generation of believers.

One of the laws of logic is the law of non-contradiction.  Yet, Christians in their appeal to the Bible often contradict themselves.  Christian doctrine is in conformity to the laws of reason, or natural law.  Self-contradictory doctrines cannot be true.  Trying to understand Scriptures independently of reason is folly.  God himself is the Logos, which may be translated the Logic.  Would he speak contrary to reason?

One problem in appealing to Scripture alone is that the Scriptures were inspired in the context of a particular historical time and place.  Paul’s letters often address issues, which were relevant to the primitive church, but not necessarily as pertinent to Christians of our time or place.  Sometimes we may not have enough historical information to understand what Paul, Peter, James or John meant.  How can we really understand the Bible and the Christian faith and its application to modern life, if we ignore tradition, experience and reason as aids in our understanding of the faith, which was once delivered to the saints of old and continues to be conveyed to us today?

With this in mind, we must understand that reason has limits, because the human mind has been restricted by the fall.  When we study history, we often only see in a glass darkly.  Furthermore the pride of life is always lurking to try and lead us astray as we gain more knowledge.

In conclusion, scripture, tradition, experience and reason, guided by the Holy Spirit and guarded by a community of believers will keep us on the straight and narrow.

brother jed

 

LGBT Haters Attack!

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We didn’t see this coming? My view and supposition is that conservative Christians are not lion like in their approach to the onslaught of our perfect and true religion. By personal experience, I know that most Christian lawyers want the easier win, the non confrontational cases which don’t cause many waves to their reputation/careers. But, never before in our history has the bold preaching of the Gospel more warranted and the defense of the same! But, MOST ‘Christians’ do not want to take up this cross and follow Jesus. This may mean loss of family, jobs, reputation, jail time, fines, harassment, persecutions, and even beheadings. The winnowing fork of Jesus is upon the threshing floor for the ‘church’ in Amerika! Get ready Amerikan church, your time to rise up has been decades overdue!

 

http://libertycounsel.com/a-new-level-of-attack/

 

Pilgrim Preachers Progress – A 21st Century Allegory by Mr. James the Gentle

 

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PILGRIM BECOMES AN EVANGELIST  An Allegory of the 21st Century Christian Walk

Having only had my eyes opened for a short time, I now realized that most of the people around me were rushing towards the City of Destruction. My heart burned within me as I struggled to persuade them that they must turn and go with me on the way to the Celestial City. Daily I stood on the way as they thronged around me and cried out to them to turn. Frequently they would berate me and tell me to take my preaching to the church. But often one of them would stop and speak with me giving me opportunity to shed some light into their hearts and plead with them for their soul.   One day as I stood and cried aloud my fellow pilgrim, MR. COWARD approached me and asserted that I was doing it the wrong way and would surely keep some from ever joining us on our trip to the Celestial City. Being a new pilgrim, I was smitten in my heart that I might be a cause of them not heeding the words of truth. Eagerly I asked MR. COWARD for help in learning how best to touch these desperate souls. He did not seem to have any answer, but simply stated that he tried to befriend them and eventually HE HOPED they would ask him for the truth. Of course, I wanted to befriend them also, as I was much troubled over their plight, but as I pored over the Holy words of Truth, I saw that the Apostle Paul said in Acts 10:42 “And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.” This much encouraged my heart and I again went out to the broad way where the sinners were going on their way heedless of the danger that awaited them.     Once again MR. COWARD saw me and came over along with MR. SANCTIMONIOUS. They stated that perhaps if I really felt that I needed to scream in public I could find someplace where I would not bother anyone. They seemed to be much concerned about the image that I was giving fellow pilgrims. I pointed out to them that John the Baptist, Paul, Peter and the other apostles and even our Lord preached outdoors frequently and I urged them to stay and help me but they seemed to take great offence and pointed out to me that EVANGELIST would be coming through the area soon. They said we could bring the sinners to hear him then and perhaps he could persuade them of their peril. Thinking that they were older pilgrims than I and undoubtedly had more wisdom I waited eagerly for EVANGELIST to arrive. Earnestly I invited and befriended all those I could, but I could not help but feel that it was SO FEW!     Night after night of EVANGELIST‘S meeting, I looked in vain for those lost souls to come. It seemed to me the building was filled with fellow pilgrims and yet EVANGELIST preached as if the building was full of unbelievers. Not understanding, I spoke with EVANGELIST and told him if he would accompany me on the morrow I would show him where he could preach to thousands of lost souls and perhaps we could rescue some of them. But it seemed that EVANGELIST‘s time was already planned and besides PASTOR APATHY had already told him that he did not want our place of worship to be considered so peculiar. Being much in turmoil over the lost souls on the OUTSIDE, and all the preaching going on INSIDE, I again turned to the Holy word and found that if I would be a true evangelist and indeed even a good Christian I must GO (Matthew 28: 19-20) and plead with the sinners where they were which was in the markets (Acts 17:17), local gathering places (Mars Hill-Acts 17:22), in prisons (Acts 16:31) and generally OUTSIDE the church. The spirit much strengthened me as I approached the road leading to the city of Destruction and stood in the midst of the sinners and cried out “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.